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From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
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Subject: Best of both worlds / Franz Lisp GI/S (Was: REDUCE 1963)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 13:54:44 +0200
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Hi,

Concerning notebooks, here is a Franz Lisp thingy
but not yet notebooks, a couple of document windows:

GI/S: A Graphical User Interface
For Symbolic Computation Systelns
Douglas A. Young and Paul S. Wang
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747717187800135

But notebooks are more tidy, aren't they? I basically
wish for a combination of both. Like a feature for

selecting an output cell and detach it from the notebook
into a separate window. This would be swell!

YouTube took a while to provide this for their videos,
mostlikely some notebooks can do that already.

Bye

P.S: The hardware spec of the GI/S host:
Although every attempt was made to keep the design of the
GI/S as device independent as possible, the choice of the
Tektronix 4404 naturally influenced the final design. The
4404 is equipped with 1.9 Megabytes of RAM, a 40 Megabyte
hard disk, and uses a 68000 based CPU running a Unix-like
operating system. The monochrome bitmapped graphics display
provides 480 by 640 pixels resolution on a 9.5 inch by 7.0
inch screen. The 4404 supports Franz Lisp [Foderaro, 1981],
Version 42, which adds flavors, packages, objects,
and other enhancements to Franz Lisp.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe there is a strategy involved delaying
> a start up and patents, until some stuff becomes hot.
> 
> Or delaying stuff until the required hardware
> becomes affordable to everybody. Not an issue
> 
> for ChatGPT since it is anyway client server.
> But you find GUIs for math symbolic systems
> 
> basically derived from REDUCE in the dozens!
> 
>  > The development of REDUCE was started in 1963 by
>  > Anthony C. Hearn; since then, many scientists from
>  > all over the world have contributed to its development.
>  > REDUCE was open-sourced in December 2008 and is
>  > available for free under a modified BSD license
>  > on SourceForge. Previously it had cost $695.
>  > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduce_%28computer_algebra_system%29
> 
> Bye
> 
> Julio Di Egidio schrieb:
>> On 15/06/2025 04:04, Mild Shock wrote:
>>
>>> So they came up with a patent already in 2012:
>>
>> << The conceptual step of converting an abstract
>> representation (design or specification) of a software
>> system, into a more concrete representation in the form
>> of program code. >>
>>
>> "Already" in 2012?  That's the most ridiculous as well
>> as the least original "invention" I have ever seen...
>>
>> -Julio
>>
>