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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.net> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Pixel android upgrades Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 17:27:57 +0200 Organization: Camembert Normand aus Lait Cru Message-ID: <102mopt$rlv9$1@solani.org> References: <mare0jFoi4iU1@mid.individual.net> <mb36snF4drhU1@mid.individual.net> <mb3cgrF59qbU1@mid.individual.net> <mb3h92F617bU1@mid.individual.net> <102j2q2$p8pr$1@solani.org> <mb625hFj1niU2@mid.individual.net> <102klmm$qgnt$1@solani.org> <mb85m8FtqvmU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 15:27:57 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="907241"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:139.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/139.0.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:KmOk+XK9L07/4ahyVJD9kfmZk4k= Content-Language: de-CH, en-GB In-Reply-To: <mb85m8FtqvmU1@mid.individual.net> X-User-ID: eJwNw4kRACEIBLCWeGSRclCX/ku4y0zCobi5EFgxMbOdDZN3UGAW2j1lN2mVZa95j1YeNeG/Px0SEQA= On 15.06.25 17:03, s|b wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 22:22:46 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > >> An empty battery is even worse than a full one. General wisdom is 20% >> over a longer period of time. The same plating effect at the cathode >> side. Keep the SOC (State of Charge) between 20% and 80% if possible. >> That applies to Lithium-Batteries. > > I expect the following reasoning to be wrong, but... > > 100 -> 20 = 80% > 80 -> 20 = 60% > > First method gives me a fully charged smartphone in the morning and > usually lasts all day. I feel like the second method will have me > running around with a charger (and powerbank) all the time. While it may > be better for the battery, it doesn't seem very practical. That may be the case with your already worn out battery. The fast charger with 20 Watt recharges my Pixel from 20% to 80% in under 30 minutes. But it can help you to keep a future phones or Li-batteries in general at a healthy level for a much longer period of time. Most devices have firmwares now, that allow to preprogram the charging cycles (Pixels with Android 15 and up and iPhones 15 and up). My iPhone 14 claims to be at a SOH of 97% after 2 3/4 years of daily usage. The performance of my Pixel 7 is also still top notch after 3 years. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)