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Subject: Re: Self defense injustice in the UK
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 12:56:25 -0400
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On 6/14/2025 11:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jun 14, 2025 at 7:32:39 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-06-05 12:53 a.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>>>   On Jun 4, 2025 at 4:55:25 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>   
>>>>   On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:55:45 -0400, Rhino
>>>>   <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   I've seen plenty of commentators remark on their frustration with how
>>>>>   crime is handled in their country and the meagre sentences most people
>>>>>   get for serious crimes. Meanwhile, people who do mean tweets get longer
>>>>>   jail terms than serious criminals. Many of these comments are probably
>>>>>   by people who just repeat the same gossip they hear from others.
>>>>>
>>>>   There was a recent case in the UK where a woman who wrote a "mean
>>>>   tweet", then deleted it 2 hours later (after someone had taken a
>>>>   screen shot and e-mailed it to the Crown Prosecutor) got 3 1/2 years.
>>>>   It seems she got bad advise from the public defender and took a guilty
>>>>   plea while others who did likewise with her but pled not guilty were
>>>>   either acquitted or token sentences like probation.
>>>>
>>>>   That is of course the risk one takes when you 'take a plea' but this
>>>>   one seems especially high even though she is likely to get parole in 9
>>>>   months.
>>>>
>>>>   Meanwhile the "groomers" are being found guilty and getting suspended
>>>>   sentences.
>>>>
>>>>   I personally think it's appalling that suspended sentences are an
>>>>   available sentencing option for rape of a minor but then I'm not in
>>>>   the UK.
>>>>
>>>>   Bottom line is the current British government is in fear of Pakistani
>>>>   migrants be they legal or illegal and think they can't win the next
>>>>   election without Muslim ballots.
>>>   
>>>   If they're so scared of them, why do they keep importing thousands of them
>>> at
>>>   a time?
>>>   
>> They're not just importing them in droves, the Labour government is
>> actually planning to spend billions of pounds for a new airport IN
>> PAKISTAN! Apparently, most Pakistanis in Britain come for a specific
>> area in Pakistan that is fairly distant from the nearest airport so
>> Labour wants to build them an airport, presumably so it will be easier
>> for them to get back and forth when they go back to their home country.
>>
>> Among other things, Pakistanis often take their pubescent daughters back
>> to Pakistan, supposedly for a holiday, but actually to be married to a
>> first cousin they've often never met and who may be a decade older. The
>> girls are frequently horrified when they get to Pakistan and learn their
>> parents' plan; their father or older brothers will literally kill them
>> to prevent shame to the family if the girl objects. Some girls simply
>> kill themselves to avoid the forced marriage. Apparently, Labour wants
>> to make this process easier for British Pakistanis with a shiny new
>> airport....
> 
> Yep, the number of young girls who kill themselves over this 'tradition' far
> exceeds the number of troons who kill themselves for not being 'affirmed'.
> We're told we have to remake our entire society and actively participate in
> the delusions of the mentally ill or they might kill themselves, but strangely
> there's no concern for the far more frequent suicides of young girls who face
> a lifetime of abuse and rape by men 30 years older than they are.

When should one society inflict its social mores on another?