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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!panix!.POSTED.2602:f977:0:1::2!not-for-mail From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom,rec.arts.sf.movies Subject: Re: A bottomless pit of plagiarism Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 13:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000) Message-ID: <102mvh8$1fa$1@panix2.panix.com> References: <20250612a@crcomp.net> <s45r4klfucomkve06eml9tqesh9gdeghi9@4ax.com> <102kh6h$buub$1@dont-email.me> <ldqt4k5d2bahi6cvrumi2kebf9ugnkfk8o@4ax.com> Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="2602:f977:0:1::2"; logging-data="25964"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" >>Disney has long been in the business of taking old classics and=20 >>copyrighting them as their own. Many of them not technically=20 >>plagiarism, since the originals were never copyrighted. Snow White and=20 >>Cinderella, to name two off the top of my head. > >IANAL, but my understanding of this would be: >1. The stories as such are not copyrighted. >2. A particular book containing the stories may be copyrighted as >regards any essays, notes, illustrations, etc added to the book by its >publisher. >3. A movie based on a book is copyrightable as such, whether the book >was copyrighted or not. Of course, if it was, the rights to make the >movie would have to be acquired. My objection is not necessarily that they are using old stories from the public domain. Shakespeare did that. However, having read both Othello and the story _Un Capitano Moro_ that the plot was taken from, I think Othello is a far better work. Shakespeare took a good idea with a mediocre workup and turned it into something great. Disney, however, takes great works and ruins them. That's my objection. Whoever decided to tack a happy ending on to Hunchback of Notre Dame deserves to be thrown in the catacombs. And Disney does not really give credit to the sources... so many people today think Cinderella was originally a Disney story. That is another layer of shame. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."