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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: RE: Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 17:54:50 -0400
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On 6/17/2025 12:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
> On Sun Jun 15 23:07:46 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>> On 6/15/2025 4:25 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
>>> So we go ride out bikes out in the middle of nowhere. I am not a FOID
>>> carry I have not guns but my brother suggest the Bryna? I myself
>>> probably would not be taking it on a bike but who knows.
>>>
>>> My thought is I live alone and I sleep downstairs on the couch. I
>>> sometimes keep the patio door open to let in all the cool night air. I
>>> got thinking someone could just drop in although I leave the outside
>>> lights one.
>>>
>>> But if I had a Bryna I could just take aim and it is about 15 feet away
>>> to disable someone.
>>
>> It sounds like you fear a home invasion. How many have there been in
>> your area in, say, the past five years? What sort of neighborhood do you
>> live in? Are your fears actually realistic?
>>
>> Where is this patio door? An open patio door will usually be apparent
>> only to someone prowling around a person's back yard, so unless you know
>> that lots of people walk around your back yard at night, invasion by
>> that route seems unlikely. And there should be ways of allowing the door
>> to be open enough for ventilation, but not enough to let someone burst in.
>>
>>   From the website: "A PROVEN SELF-DEFENSE OPTION FOR A DANGEROUS WORLD"
>> Yep, inciting paranoia for profit! And anecdotes about customers who
>> don't dare go out into the world without this toy.
>>
>> I don't think the world is scarily dangerous. I've never, ever needed
>> such a thing, none of my friends or extended family have ever needed it,
>> and I doubt you will ever need it.
> 
> If he never needs it, what difference does it make if he carries it? Plainly you don't believe in the Constitution or the Supreme Rulings in questions of the 2nd Amendment so it is no surprise that you believe that Constitutional freedoms are for your use only.

First, I don't think this is a second amendment issue. This thing is 
apparently a CO2 gun that shoots a ball of pepper spray.

Second, Deacon Mark posted about the device on a _discussion_ group. 
That would give most people a clue that he expected us to _discuss_ it. 
So don't try to shut down discussion via "What difference does it make?"

My interest is generated by the ever growing paranoia in this country - 
the idea that our world is now so, so dangerous that everyone must carry 
protective devices, must live in gated communities, must be ready to do 
battle with home invaders, can never let kids play on their own, must 
wear padding and foam hats to use anything with wheels (um, except 
cars), must ride bikes ONLY on special surfaces which care tires can 
never desecrate, must sign waivers to accept the risk of burns before 
ordering hot coffee, etc.

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- Frank Krygowski