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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Simple enough for every reader? Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:48:13 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <102ug2t$35ekh$1@dont-email.me> References: <100a8ah$ekoh$1@dont-email.me> <101cf4h$gl20$2@dont-email.me> <101ejtv$129q7$1@dont-email.me> <101f0rr$14h5f$2@dont-email.me> <101hevt$22j02$1@dont-email.me> <101hn99$25a4g$2@dont-email.me> <101mah1$3t0cq$1@dont-email.me> <101msm5$qln$1@dont-email.me> <101opv8$m16h$1@dont-email.me> <101pvvc$upfh$1@dont-email.me> <101rh76$1djtf$1@dont-email.me> <101sv4s$1o8bc$1@dont-email.me> <101u5sd$24q1b$1@dont-email.me> <101uh03$26rnt$2@dont-email.me> <10235vu$3lmmn$1@dont-email.me> <1029om9$1cir8$2@dont-email.me> <102bcgv$1rtqf$1@dont-email.me> <102bpch$1ud0p$2@dont-email.me> <102e17b$2ijkk$1@dont-email.me> <102e7cv$2jqav$1@dont-email.me> <102gse1$3c4uk$1@dont-email.me> <102ha1f$3f983$1@dont-email.me> <102jkju$52ir$1@dont-email.me> <102jva3$68hi$2@dont-email.me> <102m7g4$rqqe$1@dont-email.me> <102mrjb$10ko1$2@dont-email.me> <102ohr2$1gc76$1@dont-email.me> <102osui$1j1c3$1@dont-email.me> <102rfal$2am0a$1@dont-email.me> <102rhlt$2b85u$1@dont-email.me> <102u1gk$32100$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:48:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="85cd4ab23512ed19a9ca75740d4a8b08"; logging-data="3324561"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19G2yjvguClF/LPURWkj1RatcL2G98JItE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:7tkrzapXOTna9tx2Y8OpgbeCVOw= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <102u1gk$32100$1@dont-email.me> On 18.06.2025 11:39, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-06-17 10:57:01 +0000, WM said: > >> On 17.06.2025 12:16, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-06-16 10:50:58 +0000, WM said: >>> >>> The error above is that the expression "the last one" is used without >>> proving that there is a last one. >> >> If all natnumbers are subtracted, none remains. > > True. > >> If all natnumbers are subtracted in their order, one after the other, >> none remains. > > The order does not matter, But the order exists for all defined natural numbers. We know of each one its predecessor and its successor, if those are existing. > the result is the same anyway. That means that none remains. I case of known order we know the last one subtracted. > > But that does not prove that your "the last one" denotes anything. How can an ordered set be completely subtracted in its given order without a last one? Regards, WM >