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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DD) does correctly reject its input as non-halting --- VERIFIED FACT +++ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 11:07:31 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <102uo83$37e9c$4@dont-email.me> References: <102erpt$2ohps$5@dont-email.me> <102gvs0$3d4cf$1@dont-email.me> <102hhhn$3gqbm$5@dont-email.me> <102jeak$3avu$1@dont-email.me> <102ju18$793t$1@dont-email.me> <102lvvr$pur7$1@dont-email.me> <102mj1v$uef9$1@dont-email.me> <102os41$1irbu$1@dont-email.me> <102prmp$1r1h4$2@dont-email.me> <08ab24ddbb4dd0f733da4431edf4baa1e078e1ce@i2pn2.org> <102s0jv$2fbfl$1@dont-email.me> <502d82b8112e9ad975fc7b537d6694af24139b55@i2pn2.org> <102ukor$369b2$7@dont-email.me> <417116f09bed783b8b99ab1cdac713d208e27026@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 18:07:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="181068feba52be991947ff9f62d7131d"; logging-data="3389740"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19wbANBCWztcN/evTi3szn0" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:fGqJ++G71yvre4IXElpYhAGb60A= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250618-4, 6/18/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <417116f09bed783b8b99ab1cdac713d208e27026@i2pn2.org> On 6/18/2025 11:02 AM, joes wrote: > Am Wed, 18 Jun 2025 10:08:11 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 6/17/2025 8:33 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/17/25 11:11 AM, olcott wrote: > >>>> When it is understood that HHH does simulate itself simulating DDD >>>> then any first year CS student knows that when each of the above are >>>> correctly simulated by HHH that none of them ever stop running unless >>>> aborted. >>> But since HHH *DOES* abort >> That is not given. > What? The code says so. > The HHH that I am talking about here is the infinite set of every simulating termination analyzer named HHH. Some of them abort, some of them do not abort. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer