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Subject: Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 21:13:01 -0400
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On 6/18/2025 8:51 PM, chrisq wrote:
> Not an industry insider, but always did like older Suse and also
> Debian, but was quite disappointed when Debian moved over to the
> dark side. They must have thought they had good reason and perhaps
> that was the way things were going, as systemd might make system
> management easier at a superficial level. That is, deskilling at that 
> level, but a devil to debug and opaque if something serious breaks.
> 
> It just offends every concept of good system design. primarily
> partitioning of function and encapsualtion. It's just so wrong,
> amazing it has got so far.

It has been claimed many times that the development of code
bases reflect the org behind them.

systemd has supposedly reached 1.7 MLOC.

VSI could not add that to VMS. *BSD teams could not add
that to *BSD.

But Linux with the support of IBM, Oracle,
Microsoft, Google, Intel, AMD, Samsung etc. can add
as many MLOC as they want.

So they do.

There is a big difference between letting
a kid into a candy store with 10 dollars vs with
a credit card with no limit.

Arne