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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog Subject: There is no flesh and blood async Prolog! (Was: Dog Shit: Call my name "jan.ai") Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 14:04:03 +0200 Message-ID: <1030ubj$10imb$1@solani.org> References: <102ra2b$u1kq$1@solani.org> <102ra6v$u1kq$2@solani.org> <102rtdc$ubej$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 12:04:03 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1067723"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.21 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wKiBWPn8dJMW7aFcBxrlH6osqo0= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBwDAIA0BLhZVA5YTPv4Td2QdB+YXh2toy3yROC90p5JbYmTsCMrSco7Pdu4xC8W1OjFshppGqP5fEF5w= In-Reply-To: <102rtdc$ubej$1@solani.org> Hi, Somebody wrote: > Right, but what I’m saying is that with the > current implementation as a separate process, > running independently of the editor and only > communicating over the channel defined by the > protocol, the ability to have fine-grained > asynchronous communication is limited. Not my problem not seeking the state of the art. You need of course a Prolog system that is all flesh and blood cooperative multitasking. If you want to do a GUI in Prolog similar like JavaScript does it now, or a native GUI adapter. And I don't count Tau-Prolog, although they showed amazing stuff. But not amazing enough, still based on continuations, and not based on promises. Or then async/await. I am not sure what SWI WASM now delivers? SWI Tinker shows me errors talking about threads when I use the query background execution feature and if I abort. But people from cooperative multitasking tend to not use the terminology "thread", they prefer to talk about "tasks". Ciao Playground doesn't count either, since their channels to a background worker can even not process an interrupt correctly. Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > The fukkers stole my name: > > Jan - Local AI Assistant > https://github.com/menloresearch/jan > > Bye > > P.S.: Meanwhile I am struggling with Quantum Paper > whille doing a dark/light CSS. Look my light olive turned dark > olive, that is somewhere near chocolate or is it dog shit? > > P.P.S.: Just figured out yesterday that some browser defaults > are more Motif/OSF than Material/Google, aka Quantum Paper.