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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 18:06:58 -0500
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On 6/19/2025 4:34 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 16:03:46 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/19/2025 3:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 15:20:34 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/19/2025 2:57 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 12:48:26 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 14:46:09 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 14:20:34 -0400, Radey Shouman
>>>>>>> <shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:58:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> (...)
>>>>>>>>>> IOW if you turn an object loose with only its weight acting on its mass,
>>>>>>>>>> it accelerates downward at one "gee."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Count me unimpressed by Krygowski's cut and paste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm reasonably sure that was written extemporaneously.  Any engineering
>>>>>>>> professor should be able to do the same.  Any practicing engineer will
>>>>>>>> have gone through the same reasoning many times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm reasonably sure he copied out of a book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To impress you, must one now memorize all the proofs and calculations?
>>>>>> That seems a bit excessive.  Do you memorize everything?  I don't,
>>>>>> mostly because my memory is not as good as when I was young.
>>>>>> Secondarily, because I don't like distributing potentially wrong
>>>>>> proofs and calculations.  If you have memorized everything, I too
>>>>>> would be very impressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't learn things by rote, I learn by knowing how things work.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>> Soloman
>>>>
>>>> Both can be true, and usually are.
>>>>
>>>> Without a grounding in principle, the things you observe
>>>> (for technical problems) have no meaning.
>>>
>>> I have a good memory and I can recite stuff I learned many years ago,
>>> but analyzing that stuff to know what it means is another thing.
>>>
>>> Hint: A few romantic lines from Chaucer's "Knight's Tale" or the first
>>> few lines from the Cantebury Tales are pretty good for convincing a
>>> fair young maiden to have another glass of wine.  I've had more than
>>> one fair lady (including my wife) look at me in awe when I expained it
>>> was Chaucer. Of course you have to do it in old english.
>>>
>>> --
>>> C'est bon
>>> Soloman
>>
>> +1
>> No less complex than basic physics, computer code in various
>> languages or drug interactions for a pharmacist...
> 
> I disagree. There's no complexity in that at all. It's no different
> than "roses are red, violets are blue...." It's no different than
> playing or singing music. I have no idea where and how it's stored,
> but when I lay my hands and fingers on the keyboard, they know where
> to go. Strange thing is that I can't play the keyboard or the guitar
> and sing at the same time. I've been told that both functions use the
> same little chunk of brain. That has limited my entertainment value.
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman


Memorizing physics formulae or a part in a Shakespeare play 
or Indy winners in order by year or the infield fly rule or 
your favorite music for keyboard or Japanese kana are all, 
literally, the exact same thing; rote memory.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971