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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: How are illegals arrested Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:55:56 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 46 Message-ID: <10347bc$52n4$1@dont-email.me> References: <7Ff5Q.1062078$%uk3.987139@fx10.iad> <10346bi$5ghi$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 19:55:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fd79e0a5002363f00fde95b4b68d02ca"; logging-data="166628"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+L87xAAYscBr4QV0Z5FnSC" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:N49GaFbxXK+6V6SMcWlGa+0B1vU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <10346bi$5ghi$1@dont-email.me> On 6/20/2025 12:38 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote: > In article <7Ff5Q.1062078$%uk3.987139@fx10.iad>, > cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Garcia who claimed he was not a member of MS-13 was not returned >> because of a mistake identifying him, but because he had open charges >> awaiting arrainment here in the US. He had something like 32 charges >> of transporting other MS-13 members around the US from Texas border >> area. > > Weird that the most efficient way of getting him to court was to get him > into custody, deport him to the one country that it was illegal to > deport him to, lie that it was impossible to get him back, then, despite > that, bring him back anyway to face trial. > > But at least he's going to finally get a day in court. Holy moly. Maybe > take the easy way next time. > It's a necessarily messy business with many distasteful aspects, dealing with illegal entries of all sorts. Congress writing statutes specifying "shall be removed" is one thing. Enforcement is another. Peruse the numbers here for example: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/06/13/why-obamas-immigration-enforcement-policy-was-better-than-trumps/ "Bill Clinton deported 12.3 million, George W. Bush 10.3 million, and Barack Obama 5.3 million in their eight-year administrations. Joe Biden racked up 4 million. Trump’s first term? 1.9 million, and another 207,000 so far this year. " There are criticisms to be made (including mine) but that piece manages to laud Obama for a large number of hearings while criticizing the present administration for holding people awaiting hearings. Make of that what you will. As with any large set of humans, there will be errors, as with citizens mistakenly jailed for having the same name as a waned person, or citizens wrongly convicted. It will happen, despite anyone's best efforts. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971