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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The first postulate is a truism. Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 13:22:37 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 34 Message-ID: <103615d$10qts$1@dont-email.me> References: <cb971eee2e20fc0f69a1dadc4d899edd@www.novabbs.com> <10338b9$m1ka$1@dont-email.me> <1786a56f3c3f680197990cda9f3d3851@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 12:22:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3930a4aa5417f4b825bb0546758e64d0"; logging-data="1076156"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19c1KZU6Hyu4TtRc9wYA9WV" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fvC5Rfudp2Vu4LdtymP2fsZRvGw= On 2025-06-21 01:28:15 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 9:06:49 +0000, Mikko wrote: > >> On 2025-06-19 17:37:29 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said: >> >>> Perplexity: >>> >>> "The First Postulate of Special Relativity >>> >>> Statement of the First Postulate >>> >>> The first postulate of special relativity, also known as the principle >>> of relativity, states: >>> >>> The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of >>> reference." >>> >>> >>> "truism >>> /ˈtrˌizƏm/ n. a statement that is obviously true and says nothing new >>> or interesting. —truistic/trˈistik/ adj." -Oxford American. >> >> The first postulate is not a truism. It is possible to imagine a world >> where it is not true and to believe that we actually live in a such >> world. > Do you think it is warranted for critics to interpret the first > postulate as including the assumption that all motion is relative? That all motion is relative is a consequence of the first postulate. -- Mikko