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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 09:14:21 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <1036ent$13pfn$1@dont-email.me> References: <1034bjk$6kj0$2@dont-email.me> <103608e$10jag$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 16:14:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c33a34d5810729869e79acc5a916ae39"; logging-data="1172983"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/RYV9tYoE6XtX0l/jzWf7D" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:PFUUiSxU08WT9jIlQ1+ZuOuR08E= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250621-4, 6/21/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <103608e$10jag$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 6/21/2025 5:07 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-06-20 19:08:36 +0000, olcott said: > >> void Infinite_Recursion() >> { >> Infinite_Recursion(); >> return; >> } >> >> void Infinite_Loop() >> { >> HERE: goto HERE; >> return; >> } >> >> void DDD() >> { >> HHH(DDD); >> return; >> } >> >> int Sipser_D() >> { >> if (HHH(Sipser_D) == 1) >> return 0; >> return 1; >> } >> >> int DD() >> { >> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >> if (Halt_Status) >> HERE: goto HERE; >> return Halt_Status; >> } >> >> My claim is that each of the above functions correctly >> simulated by any termination analyzer HHH that can possibly >> exist will never stop running unless aborted by HHH. >> >> *No one has ever provided a correct rebuttal to that* >> *In the several years that it has been reviewed* > > When there is V2 on the subject line the message should start with > a short description of the main difference from the previous version. > Slightly clearer words. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer