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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The first postulate is a truism. Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 12:45:48 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 42 Message-ID: <1038jcc$esqq$1@dont-email.me> References: <cb971eee2e20fc0f69a1dadc4d899edd@www.novabbs.com> <10338b9$m1ka$1@dont-email.me> <1786a56f3c3f680197990cda9f3d3851@www.novabbs.com> <103615d$10qts$1@dont-email.me> <a8c92227c099b0ad16b7152330b585c7@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 11:45:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="60859ac7620042bf94a2d32aaaaf381d"; logging-data="488282"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18zyZpJQi5YX0RY5PInSnOK" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:byZf3XTw4ylikLSOqeHYRla+diM= On 2025-06-21 21:11:37 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said: > On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:22:37 +0000, Mikko wrote: > >> On 2025-06-21 01:28:15 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said: >> >>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 9:06:49 +0000, Mikko wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025-06-19 17:37:29 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said: >>>> >>>>> Perplexity: >>>>> >>>>> "The First Postulate of Special Relativity >>>>> >>>>> Statement of the First Postulate >>>>> >>>>> The first postulate of special relativity, also known as the principle >>>>> of relativity, states: >>>>> >>>>> The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of >>>>> reference." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "truism >>>>> /ˈtrˌizƏm/ n. a statement that is obviously true and says nothing new >>>>> or interesting. —truistic/trˈistik/ adj." -Oxford American. >>>> >>>> The first postulate is not a truism. It is possible to imagine a world >>>> where it is not true and to believe that we actually live in a such >>>> world. >>> Do you think it is warranted for critics to interpret the first >>> postulate as including the assumption that all motion is relative? >> >> That all motion is relative is a consequence of the first postulate. > How so? Just think what the wrods mean. How do can you measure or at least detect motion? -- Mikko