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Subject: Re: What's the actual *advantage* of not having an sd slot?
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 12:48:33 +0200
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Your Name,

> In some ways they are gouging the customers who still want / need those 
> functions.

Are they ?   What do you think it costs to manufacture small batches of a 
certain product ?   And than there is the risk involved in not getting all 
of them sold.  And its not only the manufacturer who runs that risk, but 
also all the resell points, upto-and-including the store, in between.

As for gouging, that only works when a single manufacturer is involved - or 
you must believe that all the manufacturers all over the world are 
colluding.

> They remove things from a device without lowering the price, and then 
> charge extra to get those same functions back again.

You know as well as I do that they do not just remove features while leaving 
the rest of the phone the same.   As you mentioned it yourself, the choice 
to remove the the audio jack could easily be from the manufacturers wish to 
make the phone even thinner than the last one.

> No longer including a charger is another recent example.

Why include a charger when the phone has gotten an universal plug and thus 
(supposedly) can be charged by any old charger you've got laying around ? 
It can be argued that most of chargers delivered with a new phone would just 
turn into landfill.

Yes, it would have been nice to see that reflected in the price of a new 
phone, but (big) companies are definitily not there to let their customers 
profit from any windfall they might come across.  Besides, with a mid-range 
phone costing $500,- or more and a charger about $15,- we are talking about 
3%.  Thats not really going to break the bank.

> The original iMac dropped the floppy disk drive and had no real 
> replacement since USB thumb drives being too expensive at the time. You 
> had to buy an external floppy disk drive (once they were available!) to be 
> able to easily and cheaply transfer files between computers.

And with that you have deliverd a nice example why removing functionality is 
two-sided sword : They may grab a bit more cash, but they are losing control 
over what they regard as /their/ device.

Something similar happened to the Commodore 64 : they started to sell huge 
external diskdrives (called "breadboxes" by the users), and other companies 
jumped at the chance and created much nicer diskdrives about a quarter (and 
even less) as big. (I've still got both in my closet).

> Same happens in many other industries too.
>
> It's called "the price of progress".  :-(

You mean "the price of progress" which means that you are *willingly* 
carrying a device wich is a super-version of those ankle-bracelets some 
convicts are forced to wear ? :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser