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On 6/23/2025 9:10 AM, John B. wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:55:20 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/23/2025 4:51 AM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 21:13:33 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:46:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/22/2025 12:00 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>>> My fucking water bill last month was $100 and that was almost entirely from flushing toilets. That, just 15 years ago wouls have been $10.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mine arrived yesterday. $26.10 for the month. You need to move out of
>>>>> that hellhole before your water bills break you!
>>>>
>>>> My last water bill was $80.50.  I live about 60 miles south of Tom. We
>>>> have different water companies.  My water bill has been creeping
>>>> upwards since the last few droughts:
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_in_California#Dry_years>
>>>> My water bill went up even faster after the CZU fire destroyed a large
>>>> part of the water distribution and storage system Aug-Sept 2020:
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZU_Lightning_Complex_fires>
>>>> Also, only $9.50 of the $80.50 is for water.  The rest if for service.
>>>> In other words, if the water district delivered no water, my bill
>>>> would still be $71 per month.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that Tom's water bill follows the same pattern, where
>>>> reducing his water use will have almost no effect on his $100 monthly
>>>> bill.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dig a well....
>>> --
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> John B.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds simple. It's not.  In WI you need a drill permit
>> first, can't do it yourself, as it requires a licensed well
>> driller and then there's county water testing, forever.
>>
>> As with your 'water' bill, the larger expense is on the
>> other (sewage) side. In rural areas, that's septic tank
>> clearance and testing (leach fields no longer permitted).
>>
>> https://odorfreeseptic.com/septic-system-regulations/wisconsin-septic-system-regulations/
> 
> 
> I can only sympathies with you people back there .... all those
> helpful agencies.
> 
> Growing up in mid New Hampshire we lived in two houses with wells and
> septic tanks. Never a problem.
> 
> I suppose that the difference was that we knew what we were doing and
> the U.S. wasn't, in those days intent on controlling every act the
> citizens make.

I lived in New Hampshire for about 4 years. We had a well and septic tank.

A significant number of NH residents still have wells and septic tanks, 
and a large percentage of new home built in the state are also 
independent of municipal water/sewer.

https://www.des.nh.gov/water/drinking-water/private-wells

https://www.des.nh.gov/news-and-media/blog/september-2019-its-septic-smart-week-time-get-pumped-new-hampshire

The difference here is that the vast majority of wells are well over 200 
feet deep.

https://www.des.nh.gov/sites/g/files/ehbemt341/files/documents/2020-01/dwgb-1-2.pdf

Our well was relatively shallow at 150 feet, but we also lived next to a 
spring-fed pond.

If you consider that a septic tank is literally a few feet below the 
surface, having a 4 foot deep septic tank that's 2 feet below the 
surface gives plenty of isolation and filtering.


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