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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Viewpoint: RFK's reckless firing of CDC vaccine advisors not supported by evidence Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:40:28 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <103cl4s$1hrao$1@dont-email.me> References: <102a7tb$1g9nl$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="40961"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:t3Qdg+8hYYNEjeQBt5tuqrNV3To= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id A85E322978C; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:40:35 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7574C229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:40:33 -0400 (EDT) id A328D1C0733; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by newsfeed.bofh.team (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9915F1C0725 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AB6F5FEEA for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/5AB6F5FEEA; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id ED7CEDC01D3; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 00:40:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 00:40:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <102a7tb$1g9nl$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+BIKuE/MsOnuUP3BcRLiEYRkHYqwEX5cw= DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org On 6/10/2025 4:26 PM, RonO wrote: > https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/viewpoint-rfks-reckless-firing-cdc- > vaccine-advisors-not-supported-evidence > > RFK is making stupid decisons based on inaccurate and misleading data. > Typical creationist science denial tactics. > > You'd think that someone close to RFK would clue him in and keep him > from believing quote miners and stupid people willing to mislead him on > what studies actually concluded. > > He fired the independent vaccine advisory group, apparently based on an > 18 year old report that likely does not apply to the current advisors. > He canceled the H5N1 mRNA vaccine program, and it was the only means we > likely had of any type of rapid response to the D1.1 genotype starting > the next pandemic. The D1.1 sequence was so divergent from the B3.13 > dairy virus that they didn't even try current vaccine strains against > it, and the stockpiled H5 vaccine is likely worthless against it. The > D1.1 genotype killed one patient in Louisiana, another patient was in > critical condition and on a respirator before recovering in Canada, and > a third patient went into the ICU who was infected in Wyoming with the > same D1.1 lineage that infected the Washington State poultry workers and > the Nevada and Arizona dairies and Nevada dairy worker. > > Ron Okimoto > > https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/vaccine-integrity-project/viewpoint-cdcs-upcoming-vaccine-advisory-meeting-set-sow-distrust Apparently, the new ACIP vaccine advisory committee's agenda for their first meeting marks an end as a vaccine advisory committee instead they will deemphasize vaccine benefits. The Newly appointed committee members do not seem to understand what they are supposed to do. Ron Okimoto