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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 21:36:11 -0400
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On 6/23/2025 4:22 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2025 22:09:55 -0400, Cryptoengineer
> <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> There are still a quarter million 'Confederados', descendants
>> of the 20,000 who emigrated, in Brazil.
>>
>> https://renegadehistory.com/2024/11/18/brazils-confederate-refugees/
>>
>> I suppose the ur-example of carried-on refugee status would be the
>> Jewish Diaspora.
> 
> What do you mean exactly? There are various ethnic "Diasporas" who
> retain their ethnic identity without considering themselves refugees.

Hmm...

Though there were Jewish communities across the Mediterranean area
well beforehand, after the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt in CE
137, the Jewish population of Judea was basically eliminated, either
killed, expelled, or enslaved.

Jews were forced to live elsewhere, but never gave up the intention
to return: "Next year in Jerusalem" is a line heard at every Passover
seder.

A very large portion of the Jewish Diaspora never assimilated into
the local population, maintaining a separate status, and the notion
that their current residence was temporary until they could return.

So, yes, I think the term 'refugee' applies.

pt