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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.szaf.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog Subject: Is there room to adopt a flag strict_iso? Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:00:28 +0200 Message-ID: <103ei2s$18c05$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 16:00:28 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1323013"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.21 Cancel-Lock: sha1:EfH2L/mEG1sockQqca31317U4Ps= X-User-ID: eJwVxsERwDAIA7CVcDAmHQfIZf8R2p4+Chc0SYUY91feMRP9xXpQ01A5ufjont1oum0TErOwYXlyO61krHwBYZ8U2A== X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.solani.org:119 > **iso_strict** is ISO-conforming strict mode, providing > only ISO features and no implementation specific ones Maybe a good name would then be "use_strict", instead of "strict_iso", if a permutation of it is already used in the form "iso_strict" by ECLiPSe Prolog. "use_strict" would be motivated from JavaScript: > JavaScript's strict mode is a way to *opt in* to a restricted variant of JavaScript, thereby implicitly opting-out of "sloppy mode". Strict mode isn't just a subset: it *intentionally* has different semantics from normal code. Strict mode code and non-strict mode code can coexist, so scripts can opt into strict mode incrementally. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Strict_mode In JavaScript the mode is local. You can place the "use_strict" directive inside any function you want, and opt in to this function and all sub functions. So "use_strict=on" would mean ISO conforming. This would solve the problem that some Prolog systems have an "iso" flag, but setting it to true does not imply they become 100% ISO conforming. It rather tells the system to have the behaviour of some predicates change to ISO conforming. So the "use_strict" would be a conformity flag, and not a scope flag. It would not reduce the scope of a Prolog system or a Prolog modul to use less built-ins, flags etc..