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From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: What's the actual *advantage* of not having an sd slot?
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 18:16:09 -0000 (UTC)
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-06-25 00:20, Chris wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-06-24 16:01, Chris wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-06-23 10:43, Chris wrote:
>>>>>> Paul Goodman <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [Snip]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ...along with a cool nightstand for the phone that uses Magsafe and
>>>>>>>> let's me make the phone into my bedside clock.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have one of those too and I love that feature.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FWIW you don't need a specific stand. Just pop your phone on its side while
>>>>>> charging (even wired charging) and you activate the feature. I prefer not
>>>>>> to use wireless charging.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, I'm aware.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's just that simply putting your phone on its side and having it
>>>>> reliably stay there isn't always easy. If you want it to actually stay
>>>>> put, you probably need a stand. So why not one that charges it too?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why don't you like wireless charging?
>>>> 
>>>> It's inefficient and may reduce the life of the battery.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK, it's inefficient.
>>> 
>>> By how much?
>> 
>> Not sure. I think I've seen figures of 10%.
>> 
>>> Put it into concrete terms how much more electricity it uses and what
>>> that costs you.
>> 
>> It's not the personal cost, but the global increase in demand when we
>> should be doing literally everything we can do reduce our energy use.
> 
> Again: what percentage of global energy use is charging smartphones?
> 
>> 
>>> But how can it possibly reduce the life of the battery?
>> 
>> Wireless charging induces increased heat in the battery which we know can
>> reduce the lifetime of batteries. It may be minimal, but I do find that the
>> phone struggles to reliably last a day. So any loss in capacity should be
>> avoided.
> 
> Sorry, but you're going to have to produce a citation for that.

https://uk.pcmag.com/mobile-phones/146275/mobile-myth-does-fast-charging-ruin-your-phone-battery

I agree, however, the conclusion of the article is not to worry. 

>> 
>>> Regardless of whether the source is the coil of the wireless charger, or
>>> from a charging port, the current and voltage that are delivered to the
>>> battery are still controlled by the charging circuit.
>> 
>> It's a personal choice.
> 
> Great.
> 
> Don't try to justify personal choices with bullshit statistics and 
> unsupported claims.

I haven't.