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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: What's the actual *advantage* of not having an sd slot?
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 08:30:51 -0700
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On 2025-06-25 23:39, Chris wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-06-25 11:16, Chris wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-06-25 00:20, Chris wrote:
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-06-24 16:01, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-06-23 10:43, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Paul Goodman <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [Snip]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...along with a cool nightstand for the phone that uses Magsafe and
>>>>>>>>>>> let's me make the phone into my bedside clock.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have one of those too and I love that feature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FWIW you don't need a specific stand. Just pop your phone on its side while
>>>>>>>>> charging (even wired charging) and you activate the feature. I prefer not
>>>>>>>>> to use wireless charging.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, I'm aware.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's just that simply putting your phone on its side and having it
>>>>>>>> reliably stay there isn't always easy. If you want it to actually stay
>>>>>>>> put, you probably need a stand. So why not one that charges it too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why don't you like wireless charging?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's inefficient and may reduce the life of the battery.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, it's inefficient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By how much?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure. I think I've seen figures of 10%.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Put it into concrete terms how much more electricity it uses and what
>>>>>> that costs you.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not the personal cost, but the global increase in demand when we
>>>>> should be doing literally everything we can do reduce our energy use.
>>>>
>>>> Again: what percentage of global energy use is charging smartphones?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But how can it possibly reduce the life of the battery?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wireless charging induces increased heat in the battery which we know can
>>>>> reduce the lifetime of batteries. It may be minimal, but I do find that the
>>>>> phone struggles to reliably last a day. So any loss in capacity should be
>>>>> avoided.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but you're going to have to produce a citation for that.
>>>
>>> https://uk.pcmag.com/mobile-phones/146275/mobile-myth-does-fast-charging-ruin-your-phone-battery
>>>
>>> I agree, however, the conclusion of the article is not to worry.
>>
>> That article is about "fast charging"...
> 
> Correct. My concern is about heat. Fast charging is known to generate heat
> either wirelessly or not.

But your contention was that wireless charging induces MORE heat.

The article doesn't support that.