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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Positional/physical addressing Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:48:01 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <103kbml$3lm8n$1@dont-email.me> References: <103cmj1$1i145$1@dont-email.me> <1reha1p.j8hxjptkp4cgN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <103gem6$2lhen$2@dont-email.me> <1rehchv.1icqpl5msm4iiN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <103ha8d$2t06h$1@dont-email.me> <1rej3ox.zd05djj0xrseN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <103j4to$3cqgf$1@dont-email.me> <1rejquw.1viv0gnzefpamN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 22:48:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c08ca9a4f4e98dd19bea4972659a0a37"; logging-data="3856663"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19LaOurVxj2sNVc/Vkdon1N" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ClCpFp6VrxnpXNNYpOI2K0aBsIE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1rejquw.1viv0gnzefpamN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> On 6/26/2025 9:53 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > >> On 6/26/2025 1:59 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> This is too "high tech". You're effectively trying to build a TDR into >>>> each device. Recall, I want these to be dirt cheap because I use so >>>> many of them in a system. >>> >>> Actually the individual devices just need to store the time between two >>> clear digital pulses as a number. If the devices are never closer than >>> one yard apart, a 300 Mc/s clock speed will be sufficient to distinguish >>> between them. (The twin identification pulses will be spaced by double >>> the path length.) >> >> Sorry, this is a *display*. Even as oversized as it is (a few >> square feet), it is quite possible that devices will be immediately >> adjacent -- a fraction of an inch apart. > > I hadn't realised they were that close together. Obviously my > suggestion fir timing is a non-starter. There are a *lot* of them (hundreds). So, I have to try to pack them as densely as possible. The best analogy would be the "activity indicators" on network switches; they exist so you can visually identify ports that are active, inactive, failed, etc. A simple glance is usually enough to spot anomalies. Now, add to that, being able to make this determination with your eyes closed.