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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:11:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <103mms8$9qtq$1@dont-email.me> References: <103jmr5$3h0jc$1@dont-email.me> <103k0sc$2q38$1@news.muc.de> <103k1mc$3j4ha$1@dont-email.me> <4f80c7a2c5ba0fb456012c8c753adb89c33d719d@i2pn2.org> <103maod$6dce$6@dont-email.me> <34a4ee630cdb41c899f678237033bad5da5699be@i2pn2.org> <103mh6v$8hdt$1@dont-email.me> <103mkan$111i$1@news.muc.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 20:11:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a5e8bf149ad22c63d77dbd8bd904cd54"; logging-data="322490"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/hRyk/4GMK/NDfmZCruM8a" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kdY3zuKBACME1T94lu4kxmI+6iM= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <103mkan$111i$1@news.muc.de> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250627-8, 6/27/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US On 6/27/2025 12:27 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > [ Followup-To: set ] > > In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote: > > [ .... ] > >> I know that DDD .... simulated by HHH cannot >> possibly reach its own simulated "return" statement >> final halt state because the execution trace >> conclusively proves this. > > Everybody else knows this, too, and nobody has said otherwise. The > conclusion is that the simulation by HHH is incorrect. > It is impossible for anyone to gaslight me on this because the execution trace conclusively proves that I am correct. *ChatGPT, Gemini and Grok all agree* DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its simulated "return" statement final halt state. https://chatgpt.com/share/685ed9e3-260c-8011-91d0-4dee3ee08f46 https://gemini.google.com/app/f2527954a959bce4 https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_b750d0f1-9996-4394-b0e4-f76f6c77df3d >> -- >> Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer > -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer