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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: Genesis of the Humans Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 23:21:55 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <103n92j$e9bs$1@dont-email.me> References: <d256db867cb0f8c466e98ca20469a0a0@dizum.com> <103mvu0$bv2e$1@dont-email.me> <103n0ie$c559$1@dont-email.me> <103n1eb$c3gv$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:21:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5ef9e22c0956d1f330d645e95dbd7f67"; logging-data="468348"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19EfLbBKi71NzRgme4mCwPhe+LvJkQDtHQ=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:O4+6E5Zu8wMx8sRPDAOdxDnMyCY= sha1:L5eWosOHIexC9vJQLDIAW+2SBwY= The True loon lectured: > On 27/06/2025 21:56, solar penguin wrote: >> >> The True loon lectured: >> >>> The Bible doesn't say rib, it says SIDE. Eve was made from the side of >>> Adam because Adam was parted in two to make Eve. Originally Adam and Eve >>> were one. Read Aristophanes' speech in Plato's Symposium which makes the >>> origin of the Bible story clear especially when Socrates cites the >>> original source. >>> >> >> Even if Plato and/or Aristophanes knew about the Genesis story, >> it doesn’t make their fanfic part of the Biblical canon. >> > > The Bible was written AFTER Plato's Symposium took place. That depends what you mean by “The Bible”. It isn’t one book but a collection of many books written at different times and based on different sources which in turn drew from different traditions. There isn’t one single date when it was written. > The story > already existed in Athens in 416 BC before Genesis was even composed. That might be possible. Genesis is based on three sources: the E source(Elohist), J source (Jahwist) and P source (Priestly). And they all drew on earlier traditions and stories. It’s possible one of them might’ve taken something from the same traditional story that Plato and friends used. But that still doesn’t mean that Plato’s version of the story is Biblical canon. Genesis also drew on Mesopotamian creation myths like the Enuma Elish. But that doesn’t make the Mesopotamian versions of those myths canon. Why should Plato be any different? > >> And it definitely doesn’t make it biological fact. >> > > And neither is a Time Lord changing gender during regeneration. > Nobody ever claimed Time Lords were any kind of fact. We’re all aware they’re fictional. -- solar penguin