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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics
Subject: Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:42:29 -0500
Organization: Modern Human
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On 6/27/25 7:33 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/27/25 7:07 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 6/27/25 6:48 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 6/27/25 6:21 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 6/26/25 11:53 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/25 9:11 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/26/25 6:37 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/26/25 5:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/25/25 1:30 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/25/25 1:20 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 11:02 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 10:49 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 10:43 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 10:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Things went from bad to ridiculous. When the top men of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the country only think of themselves and their own 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual asses, and not the people, there's something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravely wrong with that regime. It reminds me of Shah's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time responses to Americans' crime in Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One I remember vividly cause it really pissed off people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very noticeably to even a 7 year old that I was. A 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disastrous very strong earthquake had hit Iran centered at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a city/village inside Ghazvin Dasht, Southwest of Tehran. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly there were hundreds of thousands of kids left 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind with their parents dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The government of Iran, instead of getting into high gear 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to face the realities of problems created and help these 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids, etc, within just weeks of the earthquake, spent 40% 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of governmen's budget of that year on purchasing military 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> junk from United States..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People were furious and decided to take care of the kids 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least. Many Tehrani families adopted as many of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids as they could. Some families didn't formally adopt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the kids but took care of them inside their own families, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a guest or something. The rest of the kids left 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind, hundreds of thousands of them, were turned into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streets and became beggars and prostitutes and thieves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the United States had to have its military junk sold 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Iran at 100 times the price. And Iran's government 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted that!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It gives me the same feeling that today's Iran, 100s of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times in a better condition and situation than Iran was at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the beginning of Saddam's military attack on Iran, acted 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just like those selfish people in charge of the government 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with regard to that criminal activities of the Americans 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside Iran, and only thought of themselves and their own 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asses in the aftermath of that catastrophic earthquake in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1962.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iranians who kicked the Americans out for that and a hord 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of other reasons all having to do with their criminla 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activities in Iran, at the weakest point sood after the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change in the government could decide to withstand 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saddam's attack. But this government, right now in Iran, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which still steals credit from those Iranians, in a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> position at least a hundred times better than those 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iranians in 1980, caved in to the Americans and let the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to solve the matter of Israel pass by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The act was so ridiculous that even affected Trump's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words. His words already funny, turned into kindergarten 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words about Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Result: Israel will without a doubt attack Iran much 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder very soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iran avoided that with Saddam (and Turkey ) by punishing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saddam for 8 years, showing those people and all the other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighbors of Iran, especially Turkey, what happens to them 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they attack Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But now Israel, Turkey, and Azerbayjan Republic have all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtained free tickets from Iran's government itself to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack Iran with full impunity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iran's government has turned into another Shah's type 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't get surprised to see these selfish cocksuckers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> open back the American embassy in Tehran too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Was it Iran's government itself that informed the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> whereabouts of top militia and military commanders to Israel 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and USA? Now in their absence Iran sure feels like a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> different country from what it was before this war. Like a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar one!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Was this a coup? ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another clue is the matter of literally thousands of Iranian 
>>>>>>>>>>> so-called "5th column Mossad collaborators". It smells of 
>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit to me. These were found to be mostly Aftghani 
>>>>>>>>>>> Iranians, not Iranian Jews or Baha'is who've traditionally 
>>>>>>>>>>> acted as 5th column.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Afghans in Iran, on the other hand, have always been used by 
>>>>>>>>>>> Iran's government in war matters. It is just ridiculous to 
>>>>>>>>>>> say these thousands upon thousands of Afghans in Iran were 
>>>>>>>>>>> being conducted and used by Mossad! Who the fuck do they 
>>>>>>>>>>> think we ever take "Mossad" for?.. Mossad cannot even dream 
>>>>>>>>>>> of doing that. Iran's government can! They even sent them to 
>>>>>>>>>>> Syria to fight ISIS in battalions after battalions (The 
>>>>>>>>>>> Fatemiyoon).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think there is a probability that part of Iran's own 
>>>>>>>>>>> government used these Afghans to kill the true "Guards" of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the spirit of Iran's independence, to turn Iran into another 
>>>>>>>>>>> Shah's time regime.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Both the response to American military aggression, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> letting Israelis go free, supports this probability.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To me this very much looks like a coup.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another important clue: Iran's parliament firmly voted for 
>>>>>>>>>> Strait of Hormoz to get closed. The regime's Supreme National 
>>>>>>>>>> Security Council (which is by the way headed by Pezeshkiyan!) 
>>>>>>>>>> disagreed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What does this mean. I think Pezeshkiyan himself, and whoever 
>>>>>>>>>> Pezeshkiyan chose to govern Iran are in cahoots with Israelis 
>>>>>>>>>> and USA. I think they may have killed off the top true Guards 
>>>>>>>>>> of Iran's independence to make the country go back to the 
>>>>>>>>>> previous Shah's type regime, and thus pocket all the money by 
>>>>>>>>>> themselves at the expense of Iranians present and future 
>>>>>>>>>> livelihood.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the Leader's own life so directly threatened? I think 
>>>>>>>>>> they forced the Leader to reduce himself to another "Shah" 
>>>>>>>>>> type authority: absolutely helpless against USA, and 
>>>>>>>>>> absolutely powerful over those who seek an independent Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But this begs the question: Where's the Militia? Iran's 
>>>>>>>>>> Militia, by definition, is an entity that if you kill of the 
>>>>>>>>>> top ones or anyone lower down, it by itself remains active and 
>>>>>>>>>> as effective as before. But why the militia allowed this to 
>>>>>>>>>> happen?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A possible explanation. Traditionally, they act independently 
>>>>>>>>>> but in agreement with the Leader. So there is a chance that 
>>>>>>>>>> Leader changed nature and aim after being directly threatened, 
>>>>>>>>>> and did not let the Militia act independently.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words, the Militia had been first weakened and 
>>>>>>>>>> defective enough to lose its independence from leaders and 
>>>>>>>>>> governments and anybody that runs the country. So they were 
>>>>>>>>>> not a "Militia by definition" anymore, so they let this happen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> USA and Israel both were let go, the both will definitely come 
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