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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics
Subject: Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 20:00:23 -0500
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On 6/27/25 7:42 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/27/25 7:33 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 6/27/25 7:07 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 6/27/25 6:48 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 6/27/25 6:21 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/25 11:53 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/26/25 9:11 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/26/25 6:37 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/26/25 5:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/25/25 1:30 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/25/25 1:20 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 11:02 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 10:49 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 10:43 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/24/25 10:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Things went from bad to ridiculous. When the top men of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the country only think of themselves and their own 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual asses, and not the people, there's something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravely wrong with that regime. It reminds me of Shah's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time responses to Americans' crime in Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One I remember vividly cause it really pissed off people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very noticeably to even a 7 year old that I was. A 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disastrous very strong earthquake had hit Iran centered 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at a city/village inside Ghazvin Dasht, Southwest of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tehran. Suddenly there were hundreds of thousands of kids 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left behind with their parents dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The government of Iran, instead of getting into high gear 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to face the realities of problems created and help these 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids, etc, within just weeks of the earthquake, spent 40% 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of governmen's budget of that year on purchasing military 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> junk from United States..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People were furious and decided to take care of the kids 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least. Many Tehrani families adopted as many of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids as they could. Some families didn't formally adopt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the kids but took care of them inside their own families, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a guest or something. The rest of the kids left 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind, hundreds of thousands of them, were turned into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streets and became beggars and prostitutes and thieves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the United States had to have its military junk sold 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Iran at 100 times the price. And Iran's government 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted that!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It gives me the same feeling that today's Iran, 100s of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times in a better condition and situation than Iran was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the beginning of Saddam's military attack on Iran, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acted just like those selfish people in charge of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government with regard to that criminal activities of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans inside Iran, and only thought of themselves and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own asses in the aftermath of that catastrophic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earthquake in 1962.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iranians who kicked the Americans out for that and a hord 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of other reasons all having to do with their criminla 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activities in Iran, at the weakest point sood after the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change in the government could decide to withstand 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saddam's attack. But this government, right now in Iran, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which still steals credit from those Iranians, in a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> position at least a hundred times better than those 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iranians in 1980, caved in to the Americans and let the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity to solve the matter of Israel pass by.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The act was so ridiculous that even affected Trump's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words. His words already funny, turned into kindergarten 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words about Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Result: Israel will without a doubt attack Iran much 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder very soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iran avoided that with Saddam (and Turkey ) by punishing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saddam for 8 years, showing those people and all the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other neighbors of Iran, especially Turkey, what happens 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to them if they attack Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But now Israel, Turkey, and Azerbayjan Republic have all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtained free tickets from Iran's government itself to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack Iran with full impunity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iran's government has turned into another Shah's type 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't get surprised to see these selfish cocksuckers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open back the American embassy in Tehran too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was it Iran's government itself that informed the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereabouts of top militia and military commanders to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel and USA? Now in their absence Iran sure feels like a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different country from what it was before this war. Like a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar one!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was this a coup? ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another clue is the matter of literally thousands of Iranian 
>>>>>>>>>>>> so-called "5th column Mossad collaborators". It smells of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit to me. These were found to be mostly Aftghani 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iranians, not Iranian Jews or Baha'is who've traditionally 
>>>>>>>>>>>> acted as 5th column.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Afghans in Iran, on the other hand, have always been used by 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iran's government in war matters. It is just ridiculous to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> say these thousands upon thousands of Afghans in Iran were 
>>>>>>>>>>>> being conducted and used by Mossad! Who the fuck do they 
>>>>>>>>>>>> think we ever take "Mossad" for?.. Mossad cannot even dream 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of doing that. Iran's government can! They even sent them to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Syria to fight ISIS in battalions after battalions (The 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fatemiyoon).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think there is a probability that part of Iran's own 
>>>>>>>>>>>> government used these Afghans to kill the true "Guards" of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the spirit of Iran's independence, to turn Iran into another 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shah's time regime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Both the response to American military aggression, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> letting Israelis go free, supports this probability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To me this very much looks like a coup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another important clue: Iran's parliament firmly voted for 
>>>>>>>>>>> Strait of Hormoz to get closed. The regime's Supreme National 
>>>>>>>>>>> Security Council (which is by the way headed by Pezeshkiyan!) 
>>>>>>>>>>> disagreed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What does this mean. I think Pezeshkiyan himself, and whoever 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pezeshkiyan chose to govern Iran are in cahoots with Israelis 
>>>>>>>>>>> and USA. I think they may have killed off the top true Guards 
>>>>>>>>>>> of Iran's independence to make the country go back to the 
>>>>>>>>>>> previous Shah's type regime, and thus pocket all the money by 
>>>>>>>>>>> themselves at the expense of Iranians present and future 
>>>>>>>>>>> livelihood.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the Leader's own life so directly threatened? I think 
>>>>>>>>>>> they forced the Leader to reduce himself to another "Shah" 
>>>>>>>>>>> type authority: absolutely helpless against USA, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely powerful over those who seek an independent Iran.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But this begs the question: Where's the Militia? Iran's 
>>>>>>>>>>> Militia, by definition, is an entity that if you kill of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> top ones or anyone lower down, it by itself remains active 
>>>>>>>>>>> and as effective as before. But why the militia allowed this 
>>>>>>>>>>> to happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A possible explanation. Traditionally, they act independently 
>>>>>>>>>>> but in agreement with the Leader. So there is a chance that 
>>>>>>>>>>> Leader changed nature and aim after being directly 
>>>>>>>>>>> threatened, and did not let the Militia act independently.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, the Militia had been first weakened and 
>>>>>>>>>>> defective enough to lose its independence from leaders and 
>>>>>>>>>>> governments and anybody that runs the country. So they were 
>>>>>>>>>>> not a "Militia by definition" anymore, so they let this happen.
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