Deutsch   English   Français   Italiano  
<103oad3$oscg$2@dont-email.me>

View for Bookmarking (what is this?)
Look up another Usenet article

Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) is correct to reject its input as non-halting ---
 EVIDENCE THAT I AM CORRECT
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 10:50:41 +0200
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <103oad3$oscg$2@dont-email.me>
References: <102n9bo$13mp8$3@dont-email.me> <102om2v$1h6pn$2@dont-email.me>
 <102q5m6$1tklk$1@dont-email.me> <102rcg2$29lrl$1@dont-email.me>
 <102rugu$2doc9$8@dont-email.me> <102u1a5$31q0f$1@dont-email.me>
 <102umo0$369b2$13@dont-email.me> <1030jah$3pfos$1@dont-email.me>
 <1031a1m$3u901$9@dont-email.me> <1033aej$m26r$5@dont-email.me>
 <1033sll$2uqj$2@dont-email.me> <10399dl$jvs0$1@dont-email.me>
 <1039lft$n1od$3@dont-email.me> <103b30q$14nvb$1@dont-email.me>
 <103bpj3$1a3c8$2@dont-email.me> <103dljq$1sp55$1@dont-email.me>
 <103ebck$22250$2@dont-email.me> <103ga9l$2l4he$1@dont-email.me>
 <103gvur$2q86f$2@dont-email.me> <103j359$3bke5$1@dont-email.me>
 <103n9i8$e9sp$2@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 10:50:43 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a913bf74c5ebd1cd399f4c04f70f7a4a";
	logging-data="815504"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18mTdsn4DpXjQmao3V5RcWG"
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:cmWbCClCMgl+5nPpBI3OmImGVx4=
In-Reply-To: <103n9i8$e9sp$2@dont-email.me>
Content-Language: nl, en-GB

Op 28.jun.2025 om 01:30 schreef olcott:
> On 6/26/2025 4:16 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 25.jun.2025 om 16:09 schreef olcott:
>>> On 6/25/2025 2:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>> Op 24.jun.2025 om 16:06 schreef olcott:
>>>
>>> None of the code in HHH can possibly cause DDD correctly
>>> simulated by HHH to reach its own simulated "return" statement.
>>
>> Yes, exactly, that is the bug.
>>
> 
> Recursive emulation is only a tiny bit more complicated
> than recursion yet no one here seems to have a clue.
> Do you know what recursion is?
> (If you don't that would explain a lot)
As usual irrelevant claims without evidence. No rebuttal.
HHH has a bug that makes that it does not recognise the halting 
behaviour of the program specified in the input. Even a beginner can see 
that the input is a pointer to code, including the code to abort and 
halt. But HHH is programmed to ignore the conditional branch 
instructions, when simulating itself, so it thinks that there is an 
infinite loop when there are only a finite number of recursions.
But Olcott does not understand that not all recursions are infinite.