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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD correctly simulated by HHH can't possibly reach its own
 "return" statement --- Liars on comp.theory
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 12:27:33 -0500
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On 6/28/2025 12:13 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 6/28/2025 12:03 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/28/2025 10:52 AM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 6/28/2025 11:46 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/28/2025 10:39 AM, dbush wrote:
>>>>> On 6/28/2025 11:30 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/28/2025 10:21 AM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/28/2025 11:17 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2025 10:14 AM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2025 11:04 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2025 2:43 AM, wij wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2025-06-27 at 14:36 -0500, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am only here for the validation of the behavior
>>>>>>>>>>>> of DDD correctly simulated by HHH.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The definition of HHH is missing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The definition is specified in this part that you
>>>>>>>>>> dishonestly erased:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2025 2:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  > Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until
>>>>>>>>>>  > it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When
>>>>>>>>>>  > HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation
>>>>>>>>>>  > and returns 0.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The dishonest one here is YOU, as it was not wij who snipped 
>>>>>>>>> the below in his reply but YOU:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I stop at the first counter-factual mistake so I stop here.
>>>>>>>> Everything else is ignored.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words, you INTENTIONALLY don't read things that prove 
>>>>>>> you wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/28/2025 2:43 AM, wij wrote:
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > The definition of HHH is missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/27/2025 2:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>  > Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until
>>>>>>  > it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When
>>>>>>  > HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation
>>>>>>  > and returns 0.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a verified fact that the definition of HHH was
>>>>>> provided thus the claim that it was not provided is
>>>>>> counter factual.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you didn't give a definition of HHH, just gave a vauge 
>>>>> incomplete description of what you think it does.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It completely defines the generic notion of a simulating
>>>> termination analyzer and
>>>>
>>>> It specifies every detail about HHH that is required
>>>> to correctly determine whether or not DDD correctly
>>>> simulated by HHH can possibly reach its own simulated
>>>> "return" statement final halt state.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But why would you say that when you've admitted on the record (see 
>>> below) that DDD is not in fact correctly simulated by HHH?
>>>
>>
>> *I am not going to tolerate any misdirection to any other points*
>>
>> void DDD()
>> {
>>    HHH(DDD);
>>    return;
>> }
>>
>> The only point relevant to this forum is that DDD correctly
>> simulated by HHH 
> 
> Is something that you have admitted on the record doesn't happen:
> 

*This is the only point that I will address*
*Any attempt at changing the subject will*
*be construed as dishonest*

int main()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   DDD();
}

Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until
it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When
HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation
and returns 0.

Within the above specification DDD correctly simulated
by HHH cannot possibly reach its own simulated "return"
statement final halt state.

-- 
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer