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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: more Intel bad news Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:56:57 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <103qdia$1b4m2$1@dont-email.me> References: <vlct5kdmhctiu20qpvlior57l393p66p6l@4ax.com> <103nrut$m3f2$1@dont-email.me> <Ksg*wX+fA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <ib006khi1fb84f5o95ot2en758uj9j7o5b@4ax.com> <103p1vd$tt45$1@dont-email.me> <Nsg*AuagA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 05:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4ecce88dafe734d373bd499feccf9442"; logging-data="1413826"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18cvcVOfzl2yX1otaAXkKUswRKIvOmdQCk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2Z2KsXCQVJ9DeikBa2IQsgKmeA0= In-Reply-To: <Nsg*AuagA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250628-6, 29/6/2025), Outbound message On 29/06/2025 2:12 am, Theo wrote: > Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >> On 29/06/2025 1:01 am, john larkin wrote: <snip> > Philips was good at optics (lighting, medical imaging, LCDs) and the > semiconductor research divisions were really good. Another company to add to > the list of messes. Philips had their "Nat Lab" - natural philosophy laboratory, for academic physics, and other pure science stuff - from way back. The process of getting from pure science to saleable technology didn't always run smoothly, but they did have some notable successes. My wife and I lived and worked in the Netherlands from 1993 to 2012 and we did have some contact with that. >>> When your compensation is mostly the value of your stock options, >>> complicated things like transistors are an annoyance. >> >> Not when they are your entire business. >> > Exactly. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney