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From: Not Necessary <not@necessary.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: The First Distro To Offer XLibre
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 08:40:04 +0530
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On 01/07/25 9:15 pm, Nux Vomica wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 20:23:37 +0530, Not Necessary wrote:
> 
>>
>> The human mind `thinks' in
>> objects;
>>
> 
> WTF does that mean?  Fortunately, you can speak only
> for yourself and not for all humans. 
> 

A human understands the world around `objectively', i.e. as distinct
objects. To every human, a bottle of water is `parsed' as an object;
i.e. a vessel of made of plastic, for example, containing water, that is
sealed with a plastic cap.

A computing device, in order to understand what an object is; it would
need to parse every indivisible unit of that object. If a computer were
to parse a physical bottle of water kept in front of it, it needs to go
through each and every single atom in that bottle to be able to parse it
by itself.

>>
>> the computer reacts to states.
>>
> 
> The computer only executes instructions that are
> assigned to it by a human agent, and such instructions
> do not differ from or transcend any already innate human
> pattern.
> 

At its lowest level; a computing device can only capture a state at a
particular instance, with the ability to capture multiple states at
multiple instances; limited to the storage capacity of the device. The
human agency in delivering instructions can only capture a state at an
instance, read the state at another instance, or jump to a particular
instance; with the computing device reacting on the basis of the state
at a particular instance, which makes it an automaton (ability to react
on the basis of the state).

There is no other instructions for a computer to work with. As someone
else stated on this thread: It is just layers of abstractions on top of
one another. The `reality' of a computing device is completely different
from that of a human being.