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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Not Necessary <not@necessary.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The First Distro To Offer XLibre Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 08:40:04 +0530 Message-ID: <10427ub$1isdc$1@solani.org> References: <184d439321081200$22529$367819$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <103t4h0$1gnjn$1@solani.org> <103thsr$22ifd$4@dont-email.me> <103u32s$1haki$1@solani.org> <pan$41a33$85d637b3$46d41771$6eeb831a@linux.rocks> <103v4g5$1i0el$1@solani.org> <pan$502a7$9a033e0b$84df9ea2$2b98bde4@linux.rocks> <1040spg$1j3oj$1@solani.org> <pan$bb59d$889ce222$3c5e4563$c570ac61@linux.rocks> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 03:10:03 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1667500"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4OlYSoC0o6qZlgfKmrjNRiZ3WZE= In-Reply-To: <pan$bb59d$889ce222$3c5e4563$c570ac61@linux.rocks> X-User-ID: eJwFwQERADEIAzBLjK7Ql8Pg8C/hEyJOdN5gXC43wUm8yTLBsa12Gb8ttG2R0vi8CqtDU/wWCxDM Content-Language: en-US On 01/07/25 9:15 pm, Nux Vomica wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 20:23:37 +0530, Not Necessary wrote: > >> >> The human mind `thinks' in >> objects; >> > > WTF does that mean? Fortunately, you can speak only > for yourself and not for all humans. > A human understands the world around `objectively', i.e. as distinct objects. To every human, a bottle of water is `parsed' as an object; i.e. a vessel of made of plastic, for example, containing water, that is sealed with a plastic cap. A computing device, in order to understand what an object is; it would need to parse every indivisible unit of that object. If a computer were to parse a physical bottle of water kept in front of it, it needs to go through each and every single atom in that bottle to be able to parse it by itself. >> >> the computer reacts to states. >> > > The computer only executes instructions that are > assigned to it by a human agent, and such instructions > do not differ from or transcend any already innate human > pattern. > At its lowest level; a computing device can only capture a state at a particular instance, with the ability to capture multiple states at multiple instances; limited to the storage capacity of the device. The human agency in delivering instructions can only capture a state at an instance, read the state at another instance, or jump to a particular instance; with the computing device reacting on the basis of the state at a particular instance, which makes it an automaton (ability to react on the basis of the state). There is no other instructions for a computer to work with. As someone else stated on this thread: It is just layers of abstractions on top of one another. The `reality' of a computing device is completely different from that of a human being.