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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JAB <here@is.invalid> Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss Subject: potemkin understanding Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:51:46 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <104752l$e8qf$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: JAB <here@is.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2025 01:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="97b0fe2729d5beac956eb2210277555d"; logging-data="467791"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+NTspiXX3Y8dX/dTSnFWue" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Vc3QQ/uFQVEf7/SmwvuNyck6xBs= AI models just don't understand what they're talking about Researchers find models' success at tests hides illusion of understanding Researchers from MIT, Harvard, and the University of Chicago have proposed the term "potemkin understanding" to describe a newly identified failure mode in large language models that ace conceptual benchmarks but lack the true grasp needed to apply those concepts in practice. It comes from accounts of fake villages - Potemkin villages - constructed at the behest of Russian military leader Grigory Potemkin to impress Empress Catherine II. The academics are differentiating "potemkins" from "hallucination," which is used to describe AI model errors or mispredictions. In fact, there's more to AI incompetence than factual mistakes; AI models lack the ability to understand concepts the way people do, a tendency suggested by the widely used disparaging epithet for large language models, "stochastic parrots." Computer scientists Marina Mancoridis, Bec Weeks, Keyon Vafa, and Sendhil Mullainathan suggest the term "potemkin understanding" to describe when a model succeeds at a benchmark test without understanding the associated concepts. https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/03/ai_models_potemkin_understanding/ >AI models just don't understand what they're talking about Same with current Congressional Republicans....T-Borg's stochastic parrots