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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
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Subject: OK, .. Let's See :-)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 00:15:09 -0500
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The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go back to 
Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They left because 
they feared with new documents Iran has obtained, they could get 
arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!

And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens up (it 
got open today); they took the ground routes and hurriedly got 
themselves to Armenia.


Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the cost of 
the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't bullshit, by the 
way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread around this war about the 
toll Israelis paid.z

Very briefly, they've calculated them as:

- military expenditure = $12.2 Billion
- total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages to 
businesses)
- military property destruction = $4.5 Billion
- evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion

As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as high as 
all other costs combined. This is the number one reality that Israel 
stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much about Israel's Achilles' 
heel. War with Iran will solve the problem of Israel for the region.

So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't know how 
Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not disclosed to 
anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal it says a lot, by the 
way.

I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss has 
been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that same 0.5% 
ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over. Military stuff costs 
Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than they do to Iranians.

I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was suicide 
for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end sooner than 12 
days or much longer than that :)

Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine is 
absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that would 
otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from there used 
against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending Iran in an indirect 
way. When the toll for Russia got too high in this, China wisely stepped 
in to take some of the burden off from Russia. This isn't imagination. 
It is every bit the reality. It is the number one reason why Ukraine war 
doesn't end. It had saved, be it temporarily, Syria before and now it 
helps Iran. The culprits, i.e., the roots of the problem, are Israel and 
USA's plans with the region that has Iran inside it.

Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart that 
China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because what hostility 
is in Ukraine's war right now will just be transferred and get added to 
the war with Iran where matters are much more sensitive to China than 
Ukraine's issue could ever be of importance to them. China buys Iran's 
oil, and if anybody, including your infant Trump, goes to disturb that, 
it would mean a direct war with China.

The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were shocked 
by his straightforward remarks :)

I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd become sick 
of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under the rug and call it 
"politics." Politics is not Israeli way of dealing with facts. It is 
very much dealing with facts directly and pretty much honestly too!

I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about "Why are 
you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense they had asked 
Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more importance to Israel than 
Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough of it. Politics is not knowing 
the answer and yet asking the questions to see if your counterpart knows 
it too.. That's pitiful. That's what stupid high school smart aleks do, 
not politicians.

So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right into their 
faces.

The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war between 
USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia region where Iran 
is and has been for thousands of years. It is behind anything that's 
happening.


What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran instead 
of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil that Iran sells to 
China away from China. And for this, he hopes that Europeans would fill 
up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay for it out of their own pockets. 
He thinks this might work. I think it's clear that it won't because the 
more Europeans compensate for the absence of American weapons and 
munitions, the larger Russia and China will expand the war in Ukraine, 
forcing Americans back into spending part of its resources for Ukraine 
and not Israel, thus keeping Israel at the subsistence level as far as 
war with Iran is concerned.

Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too for some 
time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China themselves came 
to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a bit by Iranian 
politicians, cause I believe Iran has better politicians than Russia and 
China have as far as matters related to Nazis of USA and Europe are 
concerned. Iran has had quite a lot of experience in that.

And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of armaments 
belonging to USA that was agreed upon and sent to Poland to be 
transferred to Ukrainians, was suddenly stopped in Poland. I think Trump 
wants to get them back from Europe and give them to Israel, which in 
turn means another attempt from Israel to attack Iran, which 
consequently will cause Putin and Xi to escalate the war in Ukraine, 
raising the level of armaments that Ukraine needs to protect itself.

Trump's plan wins only if Europe would all by themselves prove to be 
able to sacrifice enough of their resources to fully compensate for what 
Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan of Trump had a 
chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and not after.

And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance. I.e. EU 
collectively might match Russia in resources.

A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China 
tactically helped Iran in any direct way, in this 12 day war. I guess 
they didn't notice that this war caused Ukrainian war to escalate. Putin 
raised the level of attacks and destruction of Ukraine's armaments. This 
_caused_ U.S. military armaments get shipped to Europe to be given to 
Ukraine, after all. But that shipment is now stopped and I'm not aware 
yet if they've said exactly for what reason.

Also note that Iran's card of mining the Strait of Hormoz is not just a 
way of pressuring USA, but very much so pressuring China as well. In 
fact it will hurt China more than it does to USA. But results are the 
same regardless. It is a way of throwing China at USA! And Iran can do 
that. She's even decided it in the parliament and it has been OKed by 
Guardian Council. It only needs a signature, and less than 15 minutes of 
time to get done!