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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Doc O'Leary , <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: [Outllook.com] Mail-service integration in diverse .* management systems Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 16:20:35 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Subsume Technologies, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <104e7oj$29t3q$1@dont-email.me> References: <AABoX3c-OKQAAHh+.A3.flnews@kurti.uplawski.eu> <103s1c7$1l95d$1@dont-email.me> <AABoYh-F0nAAAAaJ.A3.flnews@ferrat.uplawski.eu> <1043ohb$3kbi6$1@dont-email.me> <AABoZrm1x78AABno.A3.flnews@ferrat.uplawski.eu> <10495j1$uv6c$1@dont-email.me> <68686fb3@news.ausics.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2025 18:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7fe8a3e92785a874eab4a29ad9b90e35"; logging-data="2421882"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19BU+XmXUht93rQo3tdmdHwCfVlPTpKUJQ=" User-Agent: com.subsume.NNTP/1.0.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:kOeqdSYSLJWJRBDP8SJUhxfnZt8= For your reference, records indicate that not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote: > I try and avoid blocking IPs if at all possible. I have > specifically blocked SMTP connections from Tor IPs since it's very > unlikely that any signal will come through that noise, but I leave > Web requests open for all the robots of the world to plunder. I used to be more permissive, but the abuse levels kept increasing. Even for just email, all the filtering and reporting and other busywork just made it get worse and worse, and at 5000 bad messages for every good one (which was 20 years ago; I don’t know how people manage these days!), I changed my approach. Now I don’t do *any* filtering at all, and I give valid emails pretty much everywhere. The firewall doesn’t do that much heavy lifting for email, though; disposable addresses are what really stops the flow of spam for me. Yes, some innocents will be tripped up by the measures, but at least you get feedback that there is a problem. From my perspective, the problem is that you’re being used as a human shield for the benefit of those who use your network for abuse. The economics of that happening on a global scale are not in my favor. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly