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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: "Some of my best friends are . . . " criticism of Islam Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 15:07:02 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <104ehgm$2bn53$1@dont-email.me> References: <104bsol$1kugo$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2025 21:07:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0fc8de0a5428560913442f433d5873fd"; logging-data="2481315"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19a1u9EVOO5YEa8gjaBYKBpMv0JBh3iTsA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4n2+bB91opKBDiZ2Rp4S1rK8Un8= In-Reply-To: <104bsol$1kugo$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 7/5/2025 3:00 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > This video includes an extended video clip of a speech by Daniel Johnson > criticizing Islam and the Islamists who emphasize the violent rhetoric > of the Koran and will not allow the religion to modernize. > > Rant: I find YouTube channels made up of uncited video clips from > elsewhere tiresome. I cannot tell you how important the citation is. > > When was this speech made? It does not say. However, the speaker > references an opinion piece which I found on line written March 21, > 2013, so this speech took place perhaps a week later or so. > > It puts what the speaker says into context because this was the height > of the use of violence to intimidate speakers whose views on Islam are > unapproved. We're talking about attempted murder here. > > The speaker knew several such people at the time. > > I think we've forgotten how bad this period was in the UK. > > He also discusses an Islamic scholar who was head of a studies program > forced out and replaced with a far more doctrinaire Islamic scholar who > teaches the use of violence in Islam. > > It made me laugh when he pointed out the willingness of Christianity to > change and evolve, what with the Church reversing the doctrine in which > all Jews were blamed as Christ killers starting in the 12th century > "within my lifetime". Hahahahaha. If we wait enough centuries, progress! > > The speech by Daniel Johnson is presented in its entirety; the YouTuber > makes comments at the end. > > Daniel Johnson EVISCERATES Medhi Hasan With The Truth About Islam > (Muslim Crowd Stunned) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbQOTpuHMM8 > > The article I mentioned was this: > > The Sorry Truth Is That the Virus of Anti-Semitism Has Infected the > British Muslim Community > > It pains me to have to admit this but anti-Semitism isn't just tolerated > in some sections of the British Muslim community; it's routine and > commonplace. Any Muslims reading this article - if they are honest with > themselves - will know instantly what I am referring to. It's our dirty > little secret. You could call it the banality of Muslim anti-Semitism. > > By Mehdi Hasan > Al Jazeera English Presenter > HUFFPOSt > 21/03/2013 05:32am GMT > https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/anti-semitism-british-muslim-community_b_2922013.html "Modernizing" religion flies in the face of its rationale. Religion is about faith and tradition, not vogue.