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On Jul 6, 2025 at 10:20:02 AM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>  So Arizona decided none of its residents were allowed to fly?
>>  
> You don’t actually have to have real ID to fly you can get around it with
> other documents like passports and such.

In reality, no ID is technically required to fly. From the beginning, TSA had
to develop procedures to deal with people who showed up at the airport with no
ID at all.

What were they going to say to a woman from Ohio who was on vacation in Hawaii
and had her purse stolen with all her ID and credit cards and everything else
in it? "We're so sorry that happened to you, ma'am, but without ID you can't
fly. I guess you're a resident of Hawaii now. You should just go buy a house
and start a new life here." Or maybe, "You can't fly, but if you go down to
Pearl Harbor, you should be able to book passage on a cargo ship which will
get you to California in three weeks."

So no, if you show up with a regular DL or even no ID at all, there are
procedures in place to allow you to fly. They take a *lot* longer and involve
you sitting in a back office while they query a bunch of databases and make
phone calls to your employer and/or neighbors and basically do a background
check on you, so you should plan on arriving at the airport *very* early if
you want to make the flight, but you will be able to eventually get through
and onto the plane.
>>> 
>>  NO STATE allows non-citizens to vote in Federal elections and the number 
>>  of instances of it happening are generally in the single digits in any 
>>  given election.
> 
> We compensate by having the post office steel mail in ballots both incoming
> and outgoing. In the presidential election four years ago they found 20,000
> mail in ballots in the desert near my house where they had been dumped and
> burned. There was an initial report on that and then nobody said anything
> more about it. Ever.
> 
> Informed mail service or whatever the hell it’s called sends me emails of
> my incoming mail, like ballots and census forms, but they never actually
> physically arrive.

We're in our 5th year of California's "everyone gets a ballot in the mail"
shit-show and I have yet to ever receive one. This last election, when I
showed up at the polls to vote, their little computer told them that not only
was one mailed to me, but that someone had used it and it showed I'd already
voted. (How much you want to bet that ballot was cast for Kamala and all the
other Democrats on the slate?) I had to cast a provisional ballot that they
eventually told me was counted. One assumes that means the other ballot and
its votes were nullified, but that wasn't explicitly stated in the
notification I got, so who knows?