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From: suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com>
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Subject: Re: Heads of State
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 17:08:55 -0700
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On 7/6/2025 5:02 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 2025 at 10:20:02 AM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> So Arizona decided none of its residents were allowed to fly?
>>>>
>>> You don’t actually have to have real ID to fly you can get around it with
>>> other documents like passports and such.
>>
>> In reality, no ID is technically required to fly. From the beginning, TSA had
>> to develop procedures to deal with people who showed up at the airport with no
>> ID at all.
>>
>> What were they going to say to a woman from Ohio who was on vacation in Hawaii
>> and had her purse stolen with all her ID and credit cards and everything else
>> in it? "We're so sorry that happened to you, ma'am, but without ID you can't
>> fly. I guess you're a resident of Hawaii now. You should just go buy a house
>> and start a new life here." Or maybe, "You can't fly, but if you go down to
>> Pearl Harbor, you should be able to book passage on a cargo ship which will
>> get you to California in three weeks."
>>
>> So no, if you show up with a regular DL or even no ID at all, there are
>> procedures in place to allow you to fly. They take a *lot* longer and involve
>> you sitting in a back office while they query a bunch of databases and make
>> phone calls to your employer and/or neighbors and basically do a background
>> check on you, so you should plan on arriving at the airport *very* early if
>> you want to make the flight, but you will be able to eventually get through
>> and onto the plane.
>>>>>
>>>> NO STATE allows non-citizens to vote in Federal elections and the number
>>>> of instances of it happening are generally in the single digits in any
>>>> given election.
>>>
>>> We compensate by having the post office steel mail in ballots both incoming
>>> and outgoing. In the presidential election four years ago they found 20,000
>>> mail in ballots in the desert near my house where they had been dumped and
>>> burned. There was an initial report on that and then nobody said anything
>>> more about it. Ever.
>>>
>>> Informed mail service or whatever the hell it’s called sends me emails of
>>> my incoming mail, like ballots and census forms, but they never actually
>>> physically arrive.
>>
>> We're in our 5th year of California's "everyone gets a ballot in the mail"
>> shit-show and I have yet to ever receive one. This last election, when I
>> showed up at the polls to vote, their little computer told them that not only
>> was one mailed to me, but that someone had used it and it showed I'd already
>> voted. (How much you want to bet that ballot was cast for Kamala and all the
>> other Democrats on the slate?) I had to cast a provisional ballot that they
>> eventually told me was counted. One assumes that means the other ballot and
>> its votes were nullified, but that wasn't explicitly stated in the
>> notification I got, so who knows?
> 
> This would of course mean that they can track it down and tell who the mail
> and thief voted for and who you voted for to correct the record.
> 
What race does that make him?