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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: "Some of my best friends are . . . " criticism of Islam Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 17:13:32 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <104hd9s$3d100$9@dont-email.me> References: <104bsol$1kugo$1@dont-email.me> <104ehgm$2bn53$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2025 23:13:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="505d02196bd97a01da91128bccbf8994"; logging-data="3572736"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+8+aumCaXt86j/yB6rhUYKOqnE8fUrVAQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gFx04YGqmo1EVpJ+poMDIh1bSOQ= In-Reply-To: <104ehgm$2bn53$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-CA X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250707-4, 7/7/2025), Outbound message On 2025-07-06 3:07 PM, moviePig wrote: > On 7/5/2025 3:00 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >> This video includes an extended video clip of a speech by Daniel Johnson >> criticizing Islam and the Islamists who emphasize the violent rhetoric >> of the Koran and will not allow the religion to modernize. >> >> Rant: I find YouTube channels made up of uncited video clips from >> elsewhere tiresome. I cannot tell you how important the citation is. >> >> When was this speech made? It does not say. However, the speaker >> references an opinion piece which I found on line written March 21, >> 2013, so this speech took place perhaps a week later or so. >> >> It puts what the speaker says into context because this was the height >> of the use of violence to intimidate speakers whose views on Islam are >> unapproved. We're talking about attempted murder here. >> >> The speaker knew several such people at the time. >> >> I think we've forgotten how bad this period was in the UK. >> >> He also discusses an Islamic scholar who was head of a studies program >> forced out and replaced with a far more doctrinaire Islamic scholar who >> teaches the use of violence in Islam. >> >> It made me laugh when he pointed out the willingness of Christianity to >> change and evolve, what with the Church reversing the doctrine in which >> all Jews were blamed as Christ killers starting in the 12th century >> "within my lifetime". Hahahahaha. If we wait enough centuries, progress! >> >> The speech by Daniel Johnson is presented in its entirety; the YouTuber >> makes comments at the end. >> >> Daniel Johnson EVISCERATES Medhi Hasan With The Truth About Islam >> (Muslim Crowd Stunned) >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbQOTpuHMM8 >> >> The article I mentioned was this: >> >> The Sorry Truth Is That the Virus of Anti-Semitism Has Infected the >> British Muslim Community >> >> It pains me to have to admit this but anti-Semitism isn't just tolerated >> in some sections of the British Muslim community; it's routine and >> commonplace. Any Muslims reading this article - if they are honest with >> themselves - will know instantly what I am referring to. It's our dirty >> little secret. You could call it the banality of Muslim anti-Semitism. >> >> By Mehdi Hasan >> Al Jazeera English Presenter >> HUFFPOSt >> 21/03/2013 05:32am GMT >> https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/anti-semitism-british- >> muslim-community_b_2922013.html > > "Modernizing" religion flies in the face of its rationale. Religion is > about faith and tradition, not vogue. > > Which is exactly why Christianity hasn't changed in 2000 years, right? -- Rhino