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Subject: Re: "Some of my best friends are . . . " criticism of Islam
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 17:47:44 -0400
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On 7/7/2025 5:13 PM, Rhino wrote:
> On 2025-07-06 3:07 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 7/5/2025 3:00 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> This video includes an extended video clip of a speech by Daniel Johnson
>>> criticizing Islam and the Islamists who emphasize the violent rhetoric
>>> of the Koran and will not allow the religion to modernize.
>>>
>>> Rant: I find YouTube channels made up of uncited video clips from
>>> elsewhere tiresome. I cannot tell you how important the citation is.
>>>
>>> When was this speech made? It does not say. However, the speaker
>>> references an opinion piece which I found on line written March 21,
>>> 2013, so this speech took place perhaps a week later or so.
>>>
>>> It puts what the speaker says into context because this was the height
>>> of the use of violence to intimidate speakers whose views on Islam are
>>> unapproved. We're talking about attempted murder here.
>>>
>>> The speaker knew several such people at the time.
>>>
>>> I think we've forgotten how bad this period was in the UK.
>>>
>>> He also discusses an Islamic scholar who was head of a studies program
>>> forced out and replaced with a far more doctrinaire Islamic scholar who
>>> teaches the use of violence in Islam.
>>>
>>> It made me laugh when he pointed out the willingness of Christianity to
>>> change and evolve, what with the Church reversing the doctrine in which
>>> all Jews were blamed as Christ killers starting in the 12th century
>>> "within my lifetime". Hahahahaha. If we wait enough centuries, progress!
>>>
>>> The speech by Daniel Johnson is presented in its entirety; the YouTuber
>>> makes comments at the end.
>>>
>>> Daniel Johnson EVISCERATES Medhi Hasan With The Truth About Islam
>>> (Muslim Crowd Stunned)
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbQOTpuHMM8
>>>
>>> The article I mentioned was this:
>>>
>>> The Sorry Truth Is That the Virus of Anti-Semitism Has Infected the
>>> British Muslim Community
>>>
>>> It pains me to have to admit this but anti-Semitism isn't just tolerated
>>> in some sections of the British Muslim community; it's routine and
>>> commonplace. Any Muslims reading this article - if they are honest with
>>> themselves - will know instantly what I am referring to. It's our dirty
>>> little secret. You could call it the banality of Muslim anti-Semitism.
>>>
>>> By Mehdi Hasan
>>> Al Jazeera English Presenter
>>> HUFFPOSt
>>> 21/03/2013 05:32am GMT
>>> https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/anti-semitism-british- 
>>> muslim-community_b_2922013.html
>>
>> "Modernizing" religion flies in the face of its rationale.  Religion 
>> is about faith and tradition, not vogue.
>>
>>
> Which is exactly why Christianity hasn't changed in 2000 years, right?

Christianity has evolved, it hasn't been deliberately "modernized" in a 
transitive sense.  Try suggesting to any zealot that he update his 
beliefs and he'll either pray for you or burn you at the stake.