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From: William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 17:14:57 -0400
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Paul S Person wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 23:28:38 +0100, Robert Carnegie
> <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 08/04/2025 16:49, Paul S Person wrote:
>>> <snippo Shakespeare examples of what the alt-right calls "woke">
>>> <I should note that is has always been my understanding (probably from
>>> something I was told or read) that Romeo and Juliet would have been
>>> about 13, but who can say for sure?>
>>
>> I seem to remember that in several U.S. states,
>> that isn't a problem.
> 
> I don't think its a problem here, either, except, of course, that
> being 13 they are very excitable.
> 
> Young teenagers with swords duelling in the streets -- what could
> possibly go wrong?
> 
>> However, "Juliet" originally is a boy actor
>> in a dress.  This could be brought up.
> 
> I believe Hamlet remarks on the hope that a boy actor's voice hasn't
> yet changed. At some point, the idea of having female actors caught
> on. IIRC, there was at least one female who played Hamlet. And was
> very effective in the role.

In Aubrey's "Brief Lives" he mentions one daring theatre manager who 
allowed women to play on stage circa 1660.

In the comedy "Upstart Crow" Kate aspires to be an actress but only 
succeeds once by disguising herself as a boy.  I recall figuring out 
that if Kate were real, she'd have been about 85 before being allowed on 
the stage.


William Hyde