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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Simple enough for every reader? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 11:58:59 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <104o2t3$18as3$1@dont-email.me> References: <100a8ah$ekoh$1@dont-email.me> <103bc1r$17360$2@dont-email.me> <103dqb3$1u2kv$1@dont-email.me> <103engv$25bv0$1@dont-email.me> <103g9t2$2l4am$1@dont-email.me> <103hkv3$2voqr$1@dont-email.me> <103j7qu$3dl3j$1@dont-email.me> <103jgq9$3fje0$1@dont-email.me> <103lhgp$11qu$1@dont-email.me> <103mrsa$b011$1@dont-email.me> <103oe8v$ppfi$1@dont-email.me> <103osb9$sphe$1@dont-email.me> <103r4a7$1fl13$1@dont-email.me> <103ukik$2ahp0$1@dont-email.me> <1042o2k$3d5cj$1@dont-email.me> <1043dg5$3hor7$1@dont-email.me> <1045itl$3le8$1@dont-email.me> <1045vc8$5pd6$1@dont-email.me> <1048164$ndss$1@dont-email.me> <1048hlm$qhhe$1@dont-email.me> <104ao7i$1crr5$1@dont-email.me> <104b8gv$kfnr$2@dont-email.me> <104dcdo$22er8$1@dont-email.me> <104dho1$nscp$1@dont-email.me> <104g0ho$2r20u$1@dont-email.me> <104gpj3$sj7q$1@dont-email.me> <104iicl$3ehok$2@dont-email.me> <104jei0$107kd$1@dont-email.me> <104l9jb$54jk$1@dont-email.me> <104m5nm$14rkc$2@dont-email.me> <104o27c$pvdh$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 09:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4f86e22fb251f74d67f6226fd5c850d9"; logging-data="1321859"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1995bBZBD1zKwv0p2WUeN6wMzgLzGXY14U=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:X42qJJSNsGS74FOr2GMu+9tHykU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <104o27c$pvdh$1@dont-email.me> On 10.07.2025 11:47, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-07-09 16:35:02 +0000, WM said: > >> On 09.07.2025 10:34, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-07-08 15:47:12 +0000, WM said: >>> >>>> On 08.07.2025 09:46, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-07-07 15:37:08 +0000, WM said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 07.07.2025 10:29, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bijection requires completeness of domain and codomain. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So you say but cannot prove. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is so by definition. See e.g. W. Mückenheim: "Mathematik für >>>>>>>> die ersten Semester", 4th ed., De Gruyter, Berlin (2015). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you refer to some better author? >>>>>> >>>>>> That is hardly feasible. But you can look up the definition in >>>>>> every textbook of your choice. You will find the same result. Even >>>>>> Wikipedia will be sufficient: a bijection is a relation between >>>>>> two sets such that each element of either set is paired with >>>>>> exactly one element of the other set. >>>>> >>>>> So no requirement of completeness. >>>> >>>> "Each element" means that none is missing. >>> >>> No, it does not. What is said about each element applies to missing >>> elements, too. >>> >> In mathematics, a surjective function (also known as surjection, or >> onto function is a function f such that, for every element y of the >> function's codomain, ... [Wiki] > > That text does not say that >> There is none missing. Try to learn to understand mathematical texts. Every means none is missing, formally abbreviated by the universal quantifier ∀. Until you got it: EOD. Regards, WM