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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: The Sciences of the Artificial applied to Biology
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2025 01:37:32 +1000
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On 11/07/2025 4:04 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 19:38:41 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> I forgot to mention that he Sciences of the Artificial digs deep into
>> why living things (even microscopic ones) have distinct organs and
>> often components within such organs, versus the organism being a mass
>> of tissue that somehow does everything.  The driver is efficiency and
>> simplicity.
>>
>> This assumes that life has already emerged in some unspecified way,
>> and goes from there.  This is a different approach than Dawkin's
>> Blind-Watchmaker arguments.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> Ref:  "Simon_Herbert_A_The_Sciences_of_the_Artificial_3rd_ed" - The
>> Architecture of Complexity.  New copies are available from MIT Press.
> 
> Even single-cell critters have levels of intelligence. Some people
> suggest some level of consciousness.
> 
> The book sounds cool.
> 
> Dawkin says he is an atheist above anything else. So he naturally
> hides from anything that's not primitive neo-Darwinism.

Actually, he is a biologist above everything else. Creationists - 
proponents of "intelligent design" - pretend to have all sort of ides 
about how living beings are more complicated than Darwinian evolution 
requires, but it is all nonsense.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney