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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 12:32:57 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <104rhs9$1k5eu$1@dont-email.me> References: <103jmr5$3h0jc$1@dont-email.me> <gPg8Q.1988877$4AM6.189428@fx17.ams4> <a60543ff9feb748df80b32970c67bb8c7ab13d89@i2pn2.org> <tJA8Q.6$r61e.2@fx11.ams4> <5e7f84c84b4ed51e195dd33afd9ed7eca89be454@i2pn2.org> <F9U8Q.300$ZQ4b.16@fx16.ams4> <1044r60$3v2k1$1@dont-email.me> <88bb43aca42ffc4a59d979c4c4f50441ce57b385@i2pn2.org> <10464n1$6cra$1@dont-email.me> <75c102da6bc85c8677b0a126d3d6f13c5018ae9c@i2pn2.org> <10466v2$7e0u$1@dont-email.me> <10480ld$nasn$1@dont-email.me> <1048j4b$qd4f$4@dont-email.me> <104akb7$jhv7$2@dont-email.me> <104bi5m$1hqln$9@dont-email.me> <104df2q$231m5$1@dont-email.me> <104e329$2852a$4@dont-email.me> <104g09p$2r0ur$1@dont-email.me> <104gk29$2uc68$4@dont-email.me> <104ihnn$3eee9$1@dont-email.me> <104j97d$3jrpl$2@dont-email.me> <104l9fb$5428$1@dont-email.me> <104loa2$7l4q$4@dont-email.me> <104o014$pi8a$1@dont-email.me> <104ohu4$t0u4$4@dont-email.me> <104qh66$1dge1$1@dont-email.me> <104r90d$1icss$1@dont-email.me> <104rcrq$1i26b$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:32:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="77a1f53edba794dcd0b3794096040439"; logging-data="1709534"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/VKGHS7TLLT90B0Z8W2Meb" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:V4qEmAQ4HgY6v3xbDElDDzapLI8= In-Reply-To: <104rcrq$1i26b$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250711-8, 7/11/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 7/11/2025 11:07 AM, dbush wrote: > On 7/11/2025 11:01 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/11/2025 3:15 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-07-10 14:15:31 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 7/10/2025 4:09 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-07-09 12:45:54 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Here is HHH matching that pattern* >>>>>> executed HHH simulates DDD that calls emulated HHH(DDD) >>>>>> that simulates DDD that calls emulated emulated HHH(DDD) >>>>>> >>>>>> *Here is the 197 page full execution trace of that* >>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >>>>> >>>>> That trace is a little long. Where in that trace is the forth level of >>>>> recursive simulation statrted? >>>>> >>>> After the non-terminating behavior pattern is matched >>>> on line 996 >>>> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c >>>> HHH rejects DDD as specifying non-halting behavior. >>> >>> This is a good example of what I meant in another comment when >>> I said that you don't answer questions. >>> >> >> When you ask an incorrect question, like you did I provide >> an answer to the corrected question. > > On 7/9/2025 12:06 PM, olcott wrote: > > That changes the words of the question thus becomes > > the strawman error. > *I do finally have a rebuttal to your other issue* A Turing Machine halt decider has never been able to report on the behavior of any directly executed Turing Machine because anything besides finite strings are outside of the domain of every TM decider. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer