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From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
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On 7/11/25 02:35, Don Y wrote:
> On 7/10/2025 5:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-11 01:20, Don Y wrote:
>>> On 7/10/2025 3:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-10 23:39, Don Y wrote:
>>>>> On 7/10/2025 12:00 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-07-10 15:55, Don Y wrote:
>>>>>>> Again, which plants?  Was there policy in place that caused this 
>>>>>>> (if so,
>>>>>>> why hadn't ALL plants?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "...because ‘some operators’ were not complying with the 
>>>>>>> regulations"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The report, due to a ‘confidentiality obligation’ has “anonymised”
>>>>>>> information, ‘on most occasions’ at the request of the actors 
>>>>>>> involved..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you see the pattern, here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I.e., "Someone was killed.  We've spoken to the killer -- who 
>>>>>>> shall remain
>>>>>>> anonymous and promise not to do it again..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because if not, they would not have talked and the cause would not 
>>>>>> be known and corrective action not taken fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Something horrific happened.  We've spoken to the parties 
>>>>> responsible.
>>>>> We *think* they won't do it again but don't want anyone to know who
>>>>> was actually responsible (as THEY aren't part of the problem??)"
>>>>
>>>> Finding a culprit to sue will take decades (it is another 
>>>> investigation), and we want solutions now.
>>>
>>> So, let's just keep the "bad actor" in the same position of 
>>> responsibility
>>> WHILE we are deciding who to sue?
>>
>> I prefer to have electricity than a culprit.
> 
> But you have no assurance that you will *still* have electricity!
> If the same "actors" are in place, what guarantee that they won't
> similarly screw up next week/month/year?  What incentive do THEY
> have to "perform correctly" -- if the NEXT lawsuit will be years
> after the *first* lawsuit?
> 
> If you hide their identities *now*, that doesn't prevent all the
> same "anonymized data" from being subpoenaed and introduced as
> evidence in their later *trial*.  They're still on-the-hook
> for their responsibility.
> 
> (Ah, but stockholders can continue to profit UNTIL the trial...)
> 

Typical American: Sue! Sue! Sue!

Jeroen Belleman