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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 12:45:43 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <104rik7$1k5eu$2@dont-email.me> References: <103jmr5$3h0jc$1@dont-email.me> <tJA8Q.6$r61e.2@fx11.ams4> <5e7f84c84b4ed51e195dd33afd9ed7eca89be454@i2pn2.org> <F9U8Q.300$ZQ4b.16@fx16.ams4> <1044r60$3v2k1$1@dont-email.me> <88bb43aca42ffc4a59d979c4c4f50441ce57b385@i2pn2.org> <10464n1$6cra$1@dont-email.me> <75c102da6bc85c8677b0a126d3d6f13c5018ae9c@i2pn2.org> <10466v2$7e0u$1@dont-email.me> <10480ld$nasn$1@dont-email.me> <1048j4b$qd4f$4@dont-email.me> <104akb7$jhv7$2@dont-email.me> <104bi5m$1hqln$9@dont-email.me> <104df2q$231m5$1@dont-email.me> <104e329$2852a$4@dont-email.me> <104g09p$2r0ur$1@dont-email.me> <104gk29$2uc68$4@dont-email.me> <104ihnn$3eee9$1@dont-email.me> <104j97d$3jrpl$2@dont-email.me> <104l9fb$5428$1@dont-email.me> <104loa2$7l4q$4@dont-email.me> <104o014$pi8a$1@dont-email.me> <104ohu4$t0u4$4@dont-email.me> <104qh66$1dge1$1@dont-email.me> <104r90d$1icss$1@dont-email.me> <104rcrq$1i26b$1@dont-email.me> <104rhs9$1k5eu$1@dont-email.me> <104ri0e$1i26b$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:45:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="77a1f53edba794dcd0b3794096040439"; logging-data="1709534"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19cxk5x+qxdtfCk4ZOXAJVC" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:YAAQDa23tSK//hHTRw25Mb+e5pI= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250711-8, 7/11/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <104ri0e$1i26b$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 7/11/2025 12:35 PM, dbush wrote: > On 7/11/2025 1:32 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/11/2025 11:07 AM, dbush wrote: >>> On 7/11/2025 11:01 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/11/2025 3:15 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-07-10 14:15:31 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/10/2025 4:09 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-07-09 12:45:54 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Here is HHH matching that pattern* >>>>>>>> executed HHH simulates DDD that calls emulated HHH(DDD) >>>>>>>> that simulates DDD that calls emulated emulated HHH(DDD) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Here is the 197 page full execution trace of that* >>>>>>>> https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That trace is a little long. Where in that trace is the forth >>>>>>> level of >>>>>>> recursive simulation statrted? >>>>>>> >>>>>> After the non-terminating behavior pattern is matched >>>>>> on line 996 >>>>>> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c >>>>>> HHH rejects DDD as specifying non-halting behavior. >>>>> >>>>> This is a good example of what I meant in another comment when >>>>> I said that you don't answer questions. >>>>> >>>> >>>> When you ask an incorrect question, like you did I provide >>>> an answer to the corrected question. >>> >>> On 7/9/2025 12:06 PM, olcott wrote: >>> > That changes the words of the question thus becomes >>> > the strawman error. >>> >> >> *I do finally have a rebuttal to your other issue* >> A Turing Machine halt decider > > Does not exist, as you have admitted on the record: > > My views have changed now that I have a deeper understanding. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer