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From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: What's the actual *advantage* of not having an sd slot?
Date: 11 Jul 2025 18:02:00 GMT
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R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:
> Frank,
> 
> > True, but in addition, Marion's 'facts' are false, because they
> > are derived from a false/impossible premise: "all other things
> > being equal" is *impossible*. "all other things" *never are* and
> > *cannot be* "equal", there always are one or more - and probably
> > many - differences.
> 
> I must disagree with you there. Although its rather theoretical, it *is* 
> possible to have everything else the same.  A manufacturer whos not about 
> form but about function (freedom phone perhaps?) could decide to make a 
> batch of phones /without/ placing the sd-card and/or SIM-card slots, camera 
> module and so on.

  As you say, your example is rather theoretical, but even that
theoretical example is unlikely to exist.

  It's very likely that that 'exact same' phone without the SD-card slot
would be cheaper than the one without. If not, why on earth would one buy
the one without the slot? That price difference - however tiny it may be
- violates the "all other things being equal" condition, making the
conclusion a false one, i.e. not a 'fact' [1].

  Of course my modification of your example is also theoretical. But the
point is that we do not have to prove that an "all other things being
equal" situation cannot exist (can't prove a negative), but Arlen has to
prove that it *can* and *does* exist.

> Not placing certain parts is something I've seen happen with other devices. 
> The exact same "motherboard", but one with a few parts not placed.
> 
> Though having said that, his (implicite more-is-better - an *opinion*) claim 
> *is* meaningless - even in the context he created himself.
> 
> Personaly I think that a phone without a torx screwdriver can't do the 
> things that a phone with one can do.  And as such *any* phone without a torx 
> screwdriver is sub-standard.  :-)

  Exactly! Every phone should have a waffle-maker!

[1] This is just an example of Frank's law, which says "No single thing
A is 'better' than thing B, and vice versa."
Frank's law has never been proven wrong, so don't bother! :-)