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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior
 of their caller
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2025 10:16:40 -0500
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On 7/12/2025 5:52 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:13:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 7/11/2025 3:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> 
>>> As usual claims without evidence. If we do not change the input (which
>>> aborts after a few cycles o simulation), then the simulating HHH could
>>> reach the final halt state without abort.
> 
>> It is a very easily verified fact that the input never aborts anything
>> at all.
> 
> Only because it is aborted in turn. 

HHH(DDD) simulates its input until it sees that
DDD cannot possibly stop running unless aborted.

void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}

Can you see that DDD endlessly repeats its first
line of code when simulated by a pure simulator HHH?

> The *input*, being the code of DDD,
> doesn't do anything at all since it is just a representation. This
> representation has reachable code to abort.
> 


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