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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: AI's take on my cipher... Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2025 16:38:46 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <104urm7$2cu71$2@dont-email.me> References: <1049c0q$10d0c$1@dont-email.me> <3e611d6e6188f4a2e1083eb67ae59cb515b78122@i2pn2.org> <104h80t$33194$1@dont-email.me> <621d76ebcef1c8f78f02a5fa9e1c27ae0fbfed8b@i2pn2.org> <104heam$342nj$1@dont-email.me> <eeff339dfe088d5d222d32f5cf5c5b5c784bb293@i2pn2.org> <104heub$342nj$2@dont-email.me> <104hf6g$342nj$3@dont-email.me> <113fc5170ae257be53e3dfce3e09a1d8a656845d@i2pn2.org> <104hg48$34e4t$1@dont-email.me> <73ca1dbdd8b34b76e75ff709f86d5382de94a708@i2pn2.org> <104hho4$34e4t$3@dont-email.me> <51f3d09a4bd7363784d3b51bf79bfd1677230f12@i2pn2.org> <104hp5s$363bm$1@dont-email.me> <e80d25a08cb77a726c77b8359c59833f871cfa1e@i2pn2.org> <104mgv5$cvfq$1@dont-email.me> <047c88f47daa342fbbf7aee669a3deb8896ce6af@i2pn2.org> <104mj60$dltj$1@dont-email.me> <4b6e233e7c3fb669fa324151f627c4addbfc9f70@i2pn2.org> <104r7eo$1i08p$1@dont-email.me> <95a6f265f6bdddcd037a7e48cf5258e77cec9b15@i2pn2.org> <104rvba$1mol5$3@dont-email.me> <ca8477a2f89c9a1d42f7352a8f33eb697eb52004@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 01:38:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cd5a3ca9756ad282d2bbcc3ef7f23918"; logging-data="2521313"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18RBHeNYBbHhcTR6UlzszBleJr+t28AMFQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:F5pBd4kANj8jzu3bwDBUv6/7qJ4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ca8477a2f89c9a1d42f7352a8f33eb697eb52004@i2pn2.org> On 7/11/2025 10:53 PM, Stefan Claas wrote: > Richard Heathfield wrote: >> On 11/07/2025 15:56, Stefan Claas wrote: >>> Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>> On 10/07/2025 18:19, Stefan Claas wrote: >> <snip> >>>>> >>>>> But how, for example, would you give me the secret key, from the USA to >>>>> Germany, without meeting in person? >>>> >>>> Diffie-Hellman can establish a secret key in public. Then authenticate >>>> over an encrypted channel. >>> >>> I know, but how do you protect the key on your online device against >>> Pegasus or FinSpy? >> >> Why would you bother? You've got the cart before the horse. First secure >> your computing device against spyware. /Then/ think about keeping >> secrets on it. >> > > You can't secure a device, regardless of OS, against Pegasus or FinSpy, I think there is such a things as a secure device to begin with? Need to check the BIOS, firmware, hardware, ect, but I there is such a thing. > hence the reaon why people need an offline device for proper encryption > and decryption. But, say the offline device has infected hardware on it?