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Subject: Re: German Awareness Campaign Blames White Germans for Sexual Assault Epidemic
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On Jul 13, 2025 at 9:47:04 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>>> . . . 
> 
>> If your religious values hold women in such low esteem that rape
>> is considered a right for men to exercise casually at their whim,
>> then keep that religion the fuck out of my country. It deserves to be
>> discriminated against.
> 
>> Where is it written that we must accommodate and tolerate any and all
>> savagery merely because it's done under the imprimatur of religion?
> 
> This remains my concern with the elevation of the right of free exercise
> of religion in Supreme Court rulings over the last several decades, even
> when I agree with the outcome in a case like Mahmoud v. Taylor (2025)
> since religion may not respect the right of conscience of everybody
> else. I know you disagree.

We needn't even reach those issues because foreign nationals in other
countries do not have a constitutional right to immigrate to the U.S. The
government can decide if and how many immigrants it wants to admit from other
countries and can use virtually any criteria it likes in doing so.

> It's the 100th anniversary of the Scopes "Monkey Trial". A historian
> pointed out that laws promoted by William Jennings Bryan prohibiting the
> teaching of evolution were comparable to Mahmoud, in that they protected
> the right of parents to raise their children in their own religion what
> with compulsory education through high school being brand new at the
> time when the theory of evolution would have been taught. In some
> states, it was prohibited to teach the theory to college students in
> state schools.
> 
> However, Scopes' conviction was appealed on Establishment Clause
> violation, not Free Exercise, and the Warren Court finally found such a
> law unconstitutional in 1968 as an Establishment Clause violation.
> 
>> Would a bunch of neo-Aztecs have a valid discrimination complaint if we
>> banned them because of their curious habit of ripping the still-beating
>> hearts out of children to appease their gods? Is that something we'd be
>> required to tolerate and embrace so that no one will point at us and say
>> 'bigot'?
> 
> When I was a kid, they were still tossing virgins into the volcano to
> appease the gods. I miss those days. It was so much easier to get laid.
> 
>>>   My point is simply that easy answers are usually neither.
> 
>> Well, it's certainly no answer to put up a bunch of posters portraying the
>> white people as the rapists and molesters and the immigrants as the victims.
> 
> Mean people were calling the rapists, well, rapists.