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On Jul 15, 2025 at 2:48:13 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 7/15/2025 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>  On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:57:05 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  On 7/15/2025 3:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>    On Jul 15, 2025 at 8:44:17 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>>    On 7/14/2025 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>      On Jul 14, 2025 at 3:43:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>      On 7/14/2025 6:10 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>>        On 2025-07-14 5:44 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>        On 7/14/2025 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>        On 2025-07-14 12:09 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>        On 7/14/2025 9:54 AM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>        I agree that such attitudes are so obscenely backward and inhuman
>>>>>>>>>>>        that its hard to see why they haven't expired from spontaneous
>>>>>>>>>>>        neglect. Otoh, since (e.g.) *we* condemn women who parade their
>>>>>>>>>>>        boobs in a supermarket, what qualitatively entitles us to cast
>>>>>>>>>>>        principled stones?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        In my entire life, I have never seen a woman going topless in the
>>>>>>>>>>        supermarket so I really don't know what you're talking about. I
>>>>>>>>>>        haven't even heard women cluck to each other in semi-whispers about
>>>>>>>>>>        another woman who is showing more than the average amount of boob.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        For what it's worth, a woman in Guelph, Ontario effectively made it
>>>>>>>>>>        legal for women to go topless whenever they wanted (in Ontario) about
>>>>>>>>>>        30 years ago.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_Canada
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        In any case, what do your remarks even have to do with Muslim men
>>>>>>>>>>        harassing women? You acknowledge that these are barbaric behaviours
>>>>>>>>>>        but you still seem to be hunting for some excuse for this behaviour.
>>>>>>>>>>        It seems like you're trying to root that excuse in some perceived
>>>>>>>>>>        hypocrisy among Westerners.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>        I'm trying to point out that *our* mores aren't without "barbarisms".
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        No culture is perfect. In other breaking news, water is wet and it's
>>>>>>>>        going to be dark out tonight.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      The trick is to bear that in mind when punching down in culture wars.
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>      This is typically where the Islam apologist will shout, "Christians are
>>>>>>  just
>>>>>>      as bad. What about the Inquisition?!?"
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>      The proper response to which is, if you find yourself always having to
>>>>>>  reach
>>>>>>      back centuries, if not millennia, to find analogous Christian
>>>>>> examples to
>>>>>>      counter modern Muslim barbarity, you should do some serious
>>>>>>    self-examination.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Debates that reach into religion can't be won.
>>>>    
>>>>    But they certainly don't have to include importing the practitioners of
>>>>  those
>>>>    religions into your neighborhoods if they're going to be given official
>>>>    exemption from your laws and cultural norms due to their 'cultural
>>>>    ignorance'.
>>> 
>>>  Our government, by long tradition, doesn't recognize specific religions.
>>  
>>  But it can recognize actions.
> 
> Actions, hairstyle, BMI, etc. ...just not religion.

Great. So we just take note of which countries contribute these 'culturally
unaware' people who commit these vile actions to the pool of immigrants and
cut off those countries.