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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Chromium on Pi2
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 00:37:57 +0100
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On 16/07/2025 00:29, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 10/07/2025 00:02, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> The odd thing is that I ran Firefox on x86 with 512MB RAM a
>>> couple of years ago and it wasn't nearly as bad.
>>
>> Have a look at the size of the executable "then" (which is more likely
>> to be 20 to 25 years ago)
> 
> No it really was only two or maybe three years ago and Firefox
> wasn't that much bigger then.
> 
>> and now, and you'll see why a 512M Zero 2 doesn't stand a chance.
> 
> The Executable still fits easily in 512MB RAM, for some reason it
> tries to allocate lots more RAM after starting and displaying the
> browser window (which seems to work fine for a few seconds before
> it stalls).
> 
> It seems the RAM usage increased when they started using multiple
> processes:
> 
> https://erahm.org/2016/02/11/memory-usage-of-firefox-with-e10s-enabled/
> 
> Maybe on the single-core x86 PC it creates fewer processes and
> therefore uses less RAM than the quad-core Pi Zero 2? The methods
> of turning off Firefox's multi-process mode don't seem to work
> anymore. That also shows how the 64bit builds use significantly
> more RAM, which will hurt the 64bit RPi Zero 2 but not the 32bit
> RPi 2.
> 
There is also the issue that many modern websites are running memory 
gobbling Javascript implementations

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